[Linganth] Linganth Digest, Vol 39, Issue 11

Nevins, Marybeth E. mnevins at middlebury.edu
Sun Dec 17 00:28:17 UTC 2017 

The Washington Post piece that broke the story-- by By Lena H. Sun<https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/lena-h-sun/> and Juliet Eilperin<https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/juliet-eilperin/> --is precise about "Who said what to who." and how-    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html.

[https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVF.Ql7NMByeyVn%2b7mJWIyJD3g&pid=Api]<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html>

CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity<https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html>
www.washingtonpost.com
Agency analysts are told to avoid these 7 banned words and phrases in budget documents



--marybeth


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: CDC Language ban (Liz Coville)
   2. Re: CDC Language ban (Catharine Mason)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:18:13 -0600
From: Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com>
To: Judith Pine <Judy.Pine at wwu.edu>
Cc: Leila Monaghan <leila.monaghan at gmail.com>, Galey Modan
        <gmodan at gmail.com>,  LINGANTH <LINGANTH at listserv.linguistlist.org>
Subject: Re: [Linganth] CDC Language ban
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I agree with Judy that we need to find out more about how this came to be.
Who said what to who and why.  It seems like there's a lot of information
that hasn't been reported yet, or at least I haven't seen it.  Is it the
words or the topics that arre being prohibited?

Liz

On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Judith Pine <Judy.Pine at wwu.edu> wrote:

> I’m interested in watching the information come out on this.  At this
> point, my sense is that what may have happened is some bureaucrats, as they
> prepare their budget request, have decided that if they avoid these words
> they will be more likely to get funded, and if they have these words in
> their budget they’ll be less likely to get funded. So it’s a pre-emptive
> sort of thing, not a prohibition coming from the administration but rather
> a bureaucratic strategy to deal with (probably quite accurate) anticipation
> of the administration’s response.
>
>
>
> So this may be an effort to get things funded by re-labelling them without
> changes in content. I think, though, that it is that this strategy will
> backfire, as the labels re-shape the contents and everyone struggles in the
> dark to figure out what they are supposed to be doing. But how do you get
> bureaucrats to avoid “bureaucratic weasel-wording”?
>
>
>
> And if we point out the changed wording and it results in the
> administration and the legislature cutting the funding for the programs,
> where does that get us? Not that weasel-wording is a good thing, but I’m
> not sure pointing it out solves the fundamental problem. Maybe, instead,
> publicize the positive results of programs that use these words, using the
> words in the titles? Ideally, successes in Republican-leaning areas if
> possible?
>
>
>
> -          Judy
>
>
>
> *From:* Linganth [mailto:linganth-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Leila Monaghan
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 16, 2017 1:39 PM
> *To:* Galey Modan
> *Cc:* LINGANTH
> *Subject:* Re: [Linganth] CDC Language ban
>
>
>
> One way to fight this “ban on words” might be to publicize every document
> that the CDC publishes with changed words, pointing out the changes.  This
> ruling hampers everything from getting information about the elderly to the
> fight against Zika.
>
>
>
> Leila
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Galey Modan <gmodan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Any ideas how we as an organization might fight this?
>
>
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnational%2Fhealth-science%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmnevins%40middlebury.edu%7C349fbf5ec0944d96f93a08d544dcbb3a%7Ca1bb0a191576421dbe93b3a7d4b6dcaa%7C1%7C0%7C636490637188307536&sdata=%2F%2Be2eZ6STqSxgH%2B1ipUI74tWeKwu63kY%2FsW5%2Bzg97XI%3D&reserved=0
> cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-
> diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_
> story.html?utm_term=.ad1d1b951b0d
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Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2017 00:28:02 +0100
From: Catharine Mason <cmason.nc at gmail.com>
To: Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com>
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Thanks, Judy! I hadn't thought of that possibility.

Good strategy is definitely not based on second-guessing. But if this is
indeed a viable attack on freedom of expression, it will be important for
linguists to respond collectively.


On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:18 AM, Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Judy that we need to find out more about how this came to be.
> Who said what to who and why.  It seems like there's a lot of information
> that hasn't been reported yet, or at least I haven't seen it.  Is it the
> words or the topics that arre being prohibited?
>
> Liz
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Judith Pine <Judy.Pine at wwu.edu> wrote:
>
>> I’m interested in watching the information come out on this.  At this
>> point, my sense is that what may have happened is some bureaucrats, as they
>> prepare their budget request, have decided that if they avoid these words
>> they will be more likely to get funded, and if they have these words in
>> their budget they’ll be less likely to get funded. So it’s a pre-emptive
>> sort of thing, not a prohibition coming from the administration but rather
>> a bureaucratic strategy to deal with (probably quite accurate) anticipation
>> of the administration’s response.
>>
>>
>>
>> So this may be an effort to get things funded by re-labelling them
>> without changes in content. I think, though, that it is that this strategy
>> will backfire, as the labels re-shape the contents and everyone struggles
>> in the dark to figure out what they are supposed to be doing. But how do
>> you get bureaucrats to avoid “bureaucratic weasel-wording”?
>>
>>
>>
>> And if we point out the changed wording and it results in the
>> administration and the legislature cutting the funding for the programs,
>> where does that get us? Not that weasel-wording is a good thing, but I’m
>> not sure pointing it out solves the fundamental problem. Maybe, instead,
>> publicize the positive results of programs that use these words, using the
>> words in the titles? Ideally, successes in Republican-leaning areas if
>> possible?
>>
>>
>>
>> -          Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Linganth [mailto:linganth-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Leila Monaghan
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 16, 2017 1:39 PM
>> *To:* Galey Modan
>> *Cc:* LINGANTH
>> *Subject:* Re: [Linganth] CDC Language ban
>>
>>
>>
>> One way to fight this “ban on words” might be to publicize every document
>> that the CDC publishes with changed words, pointing out the changes.  This
>> ruling hampers everything from getting information about the elderly to the
>> fight against Zika.
>>
>>
>>
>> Leila
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Galey Modan <gmodan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any ideas how we as an organization might fight this?
>>
>>
>>
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnational%2Fhealth-science%2Fcdc-&data=02%7C01%7Cmnevins%40middlebury.edu%7C349fbf5ec0944d96f93a08d544dcbb3a%7Ca1bb0a191576421dbe93b3a7d4b6dcaa%7C1%7C0%7C636490637188307536&sdata=MmPOg8zptGSWiJkoneWScO1fOWQDnOsYW8Ee%2F%2B4jw0g%3D&reserved=0
>> gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/
>> 2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?
>> utm_term=.ad1d1b951b0d
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Leila Monaghan, PhD
>>
>> Publisher, Elm Books
>>
>> Laramie, Wyoming
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linganth mailing list
>> Linganth at listserv.linguistlist.org
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flistserv.linguistlist.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flinganth&data=02%7C01%7Cmnevins%40middlebury.edu%7C349fbf5ec0944d96f93a08d544dcbb3a%7Ca1bb0a191576421dbe93b3a7d4b6dcaa%7C1%7C0%7C636490637188307536&sdata=%2FZ%2FvvPQ9ExE9k4U8mm%2BQDPC72ddCSKlVyyHTx2NLm%2Bw%3D&reserved=0
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>
>
> --
> Liz Coville
> cell: 651-442-8657
> ecoville at gmail.com
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