nasality and negation
Matti Miestamo
matmies at LING.HELSINKI.FI
Fri Aug 31 16:10:21 UTC 2007
I fully agree with what Matthew just wrote. The sources of negative
morphemes that I mentioned contain areal and genealogical information on
the languages so these factors can be taken into account. I would
certainly not suggest a simple count without paying attention to the
stratification of the sample. I also agree that a serious study of the
issue should pay attention to the phonological system of each language,
how nasals relate to other phonemes in terms of frequency etc. As I
said, the lists I mentioned could provide (only) preliminary data (for a
pilot study).
Best wishes,
Matti
Matthew Dryer wrote:
> I think we need to be careful in a number of ways about what constitutes
> relevant evidence regarding the hypothesis of an association between
> negation and nasality. First, anecdotal citations of examples of
> languages without nasals in negative morphemes are largely irrelevant.
> Even lists of negative morphemes in hundreds of languages would tell us
> little (unless the association were so strong that most languages had
> nasals in negative morphemes, but that does not appear to be the case).
> Such lists would tell us little for two reasons. First, it could be the
> case that only a minority of languages have nasals in negative morphemes
> but that there is still a statistically significant association between
> nasality and negation, namely if nasals still occur significantly more
> often in negative morphemes than in other types of morphemes. Second,
> unless one controls for genealogical and areal relationships, the
> appearance of an association or lack of an association might be an
> artifact of one's sample. Solving those problems is not a trivial
> matter, as I have argued in various publications. Larry Hyman's
> observation that there are a very large number of Niger-Congo languages
> without nasals in negative morphemes is quite beside the point. To the
> contrary, what we need to do is to avoid examining too many languages
> from the same family precisely in order to factor out the distorting
> effects of large families. Finally note that if we were to examine the
> hypothesis seriously, we would also have to control for length of
> morphemes. It is quite possible, for example, that nasals occur in
> words meaning 'dog' significantly more often than in negative morphemes
> only because morphemes meaning 'dog' tend to be longer than negative
> morphemes. The hypothesis deserves to be tested, but doing so would not
> be trivial, and would require collecting data on other sorts of
> morphemes as well in order to test whether negative morphemes have
> nasals more often than other morphemes.
>
> Matthew Dryer
>
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Matti Miestamo,
Research Fellow, Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies
<http://www.helsinki.fi/collegium/>.
Homepage at the Department of General Linguistics, University of
Helsinki: <http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~matmies/>.
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