query: V/N parallels in agreement paradigms
Wolfgang Schulze
W.Schulze at LRZ.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE
Sun Feb 17 09:46:59 UTC 2008
Dear David,
I am not quite sure whether I have got your question right. But in case
you also want to consider class/gender agreement, you should look more
closely to some of the East Caucasian languages (ECL) that use class
markers in clausal and (noun) phrasal agreement. The pattern would be:
TRANS: NP:A NP:O[Class:X] V:AGR:X
INTRANS: NP:S[Class:X] V:AGR:X
NP: Noun[Class:X] Det:AGR:X
[usually, the word order is DetN]
[Class:X] means that the noun itself is not marked for AGR but only
triggers AGR (covert class marking technique). From the point of view of
AGR and CASE, it is S=O which can be called the 'subject' (although I
prefer not to use the term when describing ECLs). Note that in those ECL
that have NP internal class agreement the type of DET may be decisive:
For instance, in some Andian languages, a P(ossess)or-DET takes AGR (in
reference to the Possessum) if Por (= Possessor) is [+human,+male].
Else, we have a genitive case marker. Also, some languages allow a
deictic DET to take AGR whereas others don't. If you want to have
concrete data, please let me know...
Very best wishes,
Wolfgang
David Gil schrieb:
> Dear all,
>
> This query is about cross-categorial parallels in agreement paradigms,
> in particular those pertaining to verbs and nouns. In many languages,
> (subject or object) agreement markings on verbs are similar or
> identical in form to possessor markings on nouns. In Roon (an
> Austronesian language of West Papua), a rather different kind of
> parallelism is evident, represented schematically as follows:
>
> (SUBJ) agr-V
> [N...]=agr-DET
>
> In the above, agr represents a prefix encoding agreement with respect
> to person, number (singular/dual/plural) and (for 3rd person) gender
> (animate/inanimate). Whereas in the former, clausal case the
> controller of agreement is the subject NP and its target the verb, in
> the latter, phrasal case the controller of agreement is the noun
> itself and its target the determiner. The agreement prefixes are
> pretty much the same in both cases, the main difference being that the
> agr-V complex is an independent word whereas the agr-DET complex is an
> enclitic which attaches to the right edge of the NP.
>
> (Disclaimer: the above account is based on very preliminary field work
> and reflects an interim understanding of the facts; it should not be
> cited in written publications.)
>
> My question: how common is it cross-linguistically for there to be an
> apparently complete parallelism between Subject-Verb and
> Noun-Determiner agreement? Have any other similar cases been
> documented? (I am familiar only with a description of similar facts in
> closely-related Biak in a recent PhD dissertation by Wilco van den
> Heuvel.) Of course, many languages have both Subject-Verb and
> Noun-Determiner agreement, but usually the agreeing features and/or
> the forms expressing the features are different.
>
> Any comments, suggestions and pointers would be gratefully appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
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