demonstrative or pronoun?
Edith Moravcsik
edith at UWM.EDU
Sun Aug 9 19:11:49 UTC 2009
In Hungarian, it would be very odd to use the demonstrative. Rather, you
would say "John am" - i.e., you would use your name and then the first
person singular form of the verb 'to be'.
Or you would say (on the phone): "here John speaks" (where 'speaks' is in
the third person singular form).
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Subject: demonstrative or pronoun?
Dear all,
Consider the following very similar contexts;
Context A:
John and Bill are friends. John calls Bill on a landphone; it's a bad
line, Bill doesn't know who is speaking; John tries to identify himself
(using a predicate nominal construction)...
Context B:
John and Bill are friends. John sends Bill a text message from a new
number that Bill is unfamiliar with; John identifies himself (using a
predicate nominal construction)...
My question:
In languages that you are familiar with, in the above contexts, is the
subject of the predicate nominal construction a demonstrative or a 1st
pronoun pronoun?
In English, the subject is a demonstrative; the pronoun is infelicitous
in the given context:
This is John
#I am John
But in Indonesian, the subject is most commonly a pronoun, though a
demonstrative is also possible:
Ini John [less common]
Aku John
I am curious to know what happens in other languages. (I have a hunch
that the availability of the "pronominal subject" option in Indonesian
is correlated with the questionable status of pronouns as a discrete
grammatical category in Indonesian, but this hunch is easily testable
with a bit of cross-linguistic data.)
Note: I don't expect to find differences between the two contexts; I
provided both just in order to make the situation more natural to as
many respondents as possible.
Thanks,
David
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David Gil
Department of Linguistics
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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