Borrowed word order in phrases

Victor Friedman vfriedm at UCHICAGO.EDU
Sun Dec 15 21:36:28 UTC 2013

The Albanian dialects of Thrace and Ukraine
had/have adjective preceding rather than following
the noun on the Slavic model. 
Victor Friedman
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: Borrowed word order in phrases

Hello all,
examples from French are Nord-Mali, Sud-Soudan (instead of standard Mali
du Nord, Soudan du Sud). I don't know how the Académie Française
comments on this.
Thomas Blecke

On 14-Dec-13 06:09, Eduardo Ribeiro wrote:
> [apologies for cross-posting]
> Dear colleagues,
> I'm looking for examples of languages where certain (types of) phrases
> present a different, borrowed word order when compared to a more
> common, inherited type.  Well-known examples are, in English, legal
> terms in which the adjective follows the noun, preserving the original
> Norman French order: "attorney general", "court martial", etc.
> (Jespersen 1912:87-88).
> Are you aware of similar examples from other languages? And of cases
> in which the borrowed order, originally limited to borrowed lexemes,
> ended up becoming the default usage?
> I would appreciate any insights and bibliographic references on this topic.
> Obrigado,
> Eduardo

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