Encoding of source in verbs of perception

[Chunhui Wang]

Maybe we can classify 腥臊羶香 into a marginal kind of verbs. But they still
have a lot of syntactic features totally different from the examples
in Garifuna and German:
1) 腥臊羶香 can be modified by degree adverbs, e.g. 很/非常+....
2) they can appear in a copula sentence with the degree adverb
3) they can modify a noun, e.g. ...味儿、气
4) they also ban be used as a noun
5) they can't take any valent in any way, and there's no way we can
complement it with a valent like the examples in Garifuna and German.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Randy John LaPolla (Prof) <
RandyLaPolla at ntu.edu.sg> wrote:

>  Adjectives are a subclass of verbs in Chinese (monovalent stative verbs).
>
>  Randy
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>  On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Chunhui Wang wrote:
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>  In Chinese, 腥臊羶香can be used as adjectives and nouns, but not verbs.
> Since what we're talking about is in verbs, I don't think these Chinese
> words are good examples.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Randy John LaPolla (Prof) <
> RandyLaPolla at ntu.edu.sg> wrote:
>
>>  In Chinese there are at least three:
>>
>>  膻 (*羶*) shān 'smell like that of mutton'
>> 腥 xīng 'smell like that of fish'
>> 臊 sāo 'smell like that of urine or bad body odor'
>>
>>  And a combined expression, 腥臊羶香 xīng sāo shān xiāng, that refers to
>> the smell of chicken, dog, mutton, and beef respectively.
>>
>>  Randy
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>>  *Prof. Randy J. LaPolla, PhD FAHA* （罗仁地）| Head, Division of Linguistics
>> and Multilingual Studies | Nanyang Technological University
>> HSS-03-80, 14 Nanyang Drive, Singapore 637332 | Tel: (65) 6592-1825
>> GMT+8h | Fax: (65) 6795-6525 | http://sino-tibetan.net/rjlapolla/
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>>      “Impressive as the progress has been, science has by no means
>> worked itself out of a job. It is soberly true that science has, to date,
>> succeeded in solving a bewildering number of relatively easy problems,
>> whereas the hard problems, and the ones with perhaps promise most for man’s
>> future, lie ahead.
>>    “We must, therefore, stop thinking of science in terms of its
>> spectacular successes in solving problems of simplicity. This means, among
>> other things, that we must stop thinking of science in terms of gadgetry.”
>>   Warren Weaver, “Science and complexity”, E:CO 6.3 (2004): 65-74, p. 73.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Mar 18, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Steffen Haurholm-Larsen wrote:
>>
>>  Dear subscribers,
>>
>> It has been observed that such concepts as SEE, HEAR, TOUCH, TASTE and
>> SMELL are in some languages encoded together in just a couple of verbs
>> while other languages have more (see Åke Viberg's "Verbs of Perception" in *Language
>> Typology and Universals: An International Handbook *(2001)).
>> Furthermore, there may be a distinction between 'experience' and 'source'
>> and for the latter, the source may be included in a peripheral NP, e.g. 'my
>> hands smell *of fish*'.
>>     But how common is it for the source NP to be lexically encoded in the
>> verb? In Garifuna, an Arawak language spoken in Central America
>> traditionally by a fishing people, there are two verbs for the emission of
>> (bad) smell: *hingi*- 'stink' and *hase*- 'smell of fish'. Is it common
>> for languages to encode culturally salient NP smell sources (or other
>> source NPs) into verbs of perception?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Steffen Haurholm-Larsen
>> Universität Bern
>>
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