[Lingtyp] What do glossing labels stand for?

[Hedvig Skirgård]

Standardization of lg-spec labels sounds like a very bad idea, it will lead
to typologese translation grammars.

There's a trade-off between how easy it should be to create linguistic
descriptions, and how unbiased we want them to be. Like Rijkhoff was saying
in another thread, it depends on wether you're doing Probabilistic typology
vs. typology-based grammatical theory.

/Hedvig

P.S. I remember still my first Africanist conference in Leiden and how
confused I was at "AUG" in the glossings, when I was kindly informed that
it meant "augment" and not "augmentative" and further enlightened at how
the term "augment" is used in Bantu linguistics. Fascinating.

*Hedvig Skirgård*
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On 26 January 2016 at 09:18, Everett, Daniel <DEVERETT at bentley.edu> wrote:

> Some have asked for standardization of glossing. But if that is done
> without additional details you are using comparative labels.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 17:16, Hedvig Skirgård <hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Glossing can already be done at different level of detail, depending on
> what information is relevant in the context. Sometimes people segment out
> all inflections, sometimes not.
>
> Either way, I had always assumed they stay for language-specific
> categories. Just like other lg-spec labels they are often homonyms with
> comparative labels, which is why motivations and more information is
> usually provided. A scenario where we all use unique labels (cf ISOCat) is
> not realistic.
>
> /Hedvig
>
> p.s. By the way, I've noted that there is not larger mailing list for
> lg-spec descriptivists and field workers (besides area or family restricted
> ones). If anyone knows of such a list, do let me know.
>
>
> *Hedvig Skirgård*
> PhD Candidate
> The Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity
>
> ARC Centre of Excellence for the Dynamics of Language
>
> School of Culture, History and Language
> College of Asia and the Pacific
>
> Rm 4203, H.C. Coombs Building (#9)
> The Australian National University
>
> Acton ACT 2601
>
> Australia
>
> Co-char of Public Relations
>
> International Olympiad of Linguistics
>
> www.ioling.org
>
> On 26 January 2016 at 07:27, Östen Dahl <oesten at ling.su.se> wrote:
>
>> Here is a question that I would like to pose to the members of the ALT
>> list. If we accept the distinction between "descriptive categories" and
>> "comparative concepts", what do the labels we use in glossing example
>> sentences stand for - in particular, the labels defined in the Leipzig
>> glossing rules? I have some thoughts about this myself but would like to
>> hear what others think first.
>> östen
>>
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