[Lingtyp] ALT: code of conduct

Hedvig Skirgård hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com
Tue Nov 21 00:38:50 UTC 2017

In the interest of this not blowing up any further, I will await the EC:s
decision on whether we're going to have this vote now as planned, or
postpone it until the business meeting and have more people submit concrete
suggestions. I don't think we can really move forward until that is clear.


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*Hedvig Skirgård*

PhD Candidate

The Wellsprings of Linguistic Diversity

ARC Centre of Excellence for the Dynamics of Language

School of Culture, History and Language
College of Asia and the Pacific

The Australian National University

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On 21 November 2017 at 11:34, David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:

> Having said my bit I was hoping not to have to add to the discussion, but
> I feel the need to counter two lines of rhetoric that seem to have
> emerged.  (I do so without offering actual citations because I think it is
> important to maintain a civilized conversation devoid of ad hominem
> remarks.)
> First, I am uncomfortable with the implication that there is a job to be
> done and that this is somehow being "derailed" by too much discussion.  The
> debate is precisely on what should be done, what is ethical and what is
> practical.  If we're to invoke train metaphors, then I would counter by
> saying that we must avoid being railroaded into one very specific way of
> going about addressing the problem. Which leads into ...
> Secondly, and perhaps more cogently, I am very uncomfortable with the
> implication that people who support the code of ethics somehow take the
> issues more seriously than those who are opposed to it. I suspect most ALT
> members would agree that we are in a gender-based conflict involving
> multiple levels of aggression, coercion and violence, mostly if not
> exclusively waged by men against women. And that we desperately need to do
> something about it.  The debate is over the methods, and it is a legitimate
> debate.  Just is it is possible to argue over the justification of the WWII
> carpet bombing of Dresden without being accused of harbouring Nazi
> sympathies, so it should be possible to criticize the proposed ALT code of
> ethics without being suspected of lacking sympathy or understanding for the
> struggles that are faced by women.
> David
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> David Gil
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