# [Lingtyp] Topic and focus markers with other functions

Peter Austin pa2 at soas.ac.uk
Sat Aug 3 08:55:08 UTC 2019

Martin

Over 45 years ago Michael Silverstein proposed conceptualizing 'function'
(specifically cases in his 1974 paper) in the mathematical sense, i.e. as a
relation between sets that associates members of one set to exactly one
member of the second set.  Functions can have arguments and be n-place. He
proposed something like:

f(x,y,z,w) = c

where c is the set of case markers and roughly

x is predicate-argument type
y is animacy type
z is clause type
y is cross-clausal coreference type

Under certain conditions the function can be normalised, and variables
reduced to a single value.

Thus, in Jiwarli (Western Australia) the case marker -rla occurs when

x = transitive object
(y is normalised)
z = dependent purpose clause
w = main clause subject coreferential with dependent clause subject

So in Eva's example f is two place (x,y) as above and clause type and
conference are irrelevant.

Adopting this approach means we don't need to ask "does ergative mark
grammatical function or does it mark animacy?".

Peter

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, 06:45 Martin Haspelmath, <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de> wrote:

> Eva's post raises the interesting general question whether markers that
> occur under two necessary conditions should be said to mark both of these
> simultaneously:
>
> – Do Quechua markers like -mi or -si "mark" only evidentiality, or do they
> also "mark" focus (because they always occur on the focused constituent and
> thus serve to identify it)?
>
> – Do ("optional") ergative markers in Jaminjung "mark" the nominal only
> for ergative role, or do they also "mark" focus (because they are generally
> restricted to focused nominals and thus serve to identify the nominals as
> fucused)?
>
> – Do case flags in "split" systems, like the preposition a+ in Spanish
> (which is generally restricted to animate nominals), "mark" only the
> syntactic role, or do they also "mark" animacy?
>
> – Do plural markers that occur only when the nominal is definite or
> animate only mark "plural", or do they also "mark" definiteness or animacy?
> (This often happens in creole languages, see
> https://apics-online.info/parameters/22.chapter.html)
>
> Linguists often say that these markers have one "function", and the other
> factor that plays a role in their occurrence is a "condition", but I often
> find these difficult to distinguish. Couldn't one say (conversely) that the
> Jaminjung nominal focus marker is restricted in its distribution in that it
> only occurs when the nominal is a (transitive) agent?
>
> (In other words, couldn't one say that in cases of this sort, the marker
> has two functions simultaneously? – Sorry, this is leading away from Fritz
> Newmeyer's original post.)
>
> Martin
>
> On 02.08.19 22:10, Eva Schultze-Berndt wrote:
>
>
> Quite apart from the problems of defining focus (on which I'm less
> sceptical than the sources Eitan cites), in some of the categories that
> have been cited the literature as focus markers the question arises whether
> they really *mark* focus, or are rather (i) attracted to a focused
> constituent, or (ii) focus plays a role in their distribution.
>
> Regarding (i), I'm not a Quechuanist, but have had discussions with
> colleagues who are, and it is by no means clear that everyone considers
> evidentials in these languages as also marking focus, rather than as
> attaching to the focused constituent.
>
> Regarding (ii), I have worked on "optional" ergativity, and would not
> consider ergative marking associated with focus as "marking" focus. In any
> of the types of "classical" split ergative system, with a split, say,
> between humans and non-humans, or non-past and past, we would not consider
> the ergative case as a marker of the categories of "non-human" or "past" –
> either because there is a clear segmental marking already (past), or
> because there is no marking of the category at all outside agents
> (non-human). So if ergative case only occurs on focused agents (at least
> probabilistically – such systems often don't seem to be entirely
> categorical), recognisable as focused through prosody and context, why
> would we consider the ergative as a focus marker?
>
> Eva
>
>
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>
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