[Lingtyp] languages with just lexical contour tones / bitonal units?
Johann-Mattis List
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Tue Mar 24 14:22:28 UTC 2020
Interesting, what sample is that based on? Was it the one which Damian
Blasi and colleagues used to check for a correlation between desiccation
and tone?
On 24.03.20 13:16, Mark Donohue wrote:
> Another "catalogue" perspective.
> Based on a sample of 2621 tone languages, we find that in languages with
> only two tonal contrasts, after languages with only level tones
> (typically, but not exclusively, H vs. L), it is more common to find a
> system exclusively consisting of contour tones than it is to have one
> level and one contour tone.[1] With systems having more than two
> contrasts, mixed systems very quickly rule the roost, though H M L holds
> up well, and with 7 or more contrasts all systems are a mixture of level
> and contour tones (though we note that there are only 145 such systems
> in the database with tonal systems so elaborate, 5.5% of the whole).
>
> level contour mixed n
> 2 72% 20% 8% 890
> 3 47% 9% 44% 570
> 4 5% 5% 90% 505
> 5 1% 4% 95% 291
> 6 0% 3% 97% 210
> 7 0% 0% 100% 67
> 8 0% 0% 100% 50
> 9 0% 0% 100% 18
> 10+ 0% 0% 100% 20
>
>
> So it's not really a shock to learn of a language with only contour
> tones, especially if it's a small tone system.
>
> Looking just at the languages with only contour tones (10.4% of the
> sample), 65% have only two contrasts, 19% have 3 contrasts, 9% have
> four, 5% have five, and just seven languages have six contrasts. These
> most elaborate contour-only systems (with six contrasts) are all from
> southern China; here the tones before the '|' are found in syllables
> ending with a vowel, glide, or nasal, and those after the '|' are those
> found with -p -t -k or -ʔ; note that some level tones emerge in this
> part of the system, with only Qiyang, Chadong, and the Liula dialect of
> Lakkia surviving.
>
> Zhuang-Ningming HH- HM MM- ML MH MHM 343 32 35 43 54 21 | 44 55 11 Tai-Kadai
> Qiyang HL LML MHL MHM MLHM HLML 231 342 442 453 2142 4232
> Tibeto-Burman_Sinitic_Xiang
> Sui-Sandong_Hezhai HL HM ML LM MH LML 121 42 32 53 35 13 | 55 35 33 32
> Tai-Kadai
> Zhuang-Jingxi HM ML LM MH MLH LMLM 54 31 2323 13 45 214 | 44 55 21 13
> Tai-Kadai
> Longyou HM ML LM MH H-H MLM 445 212 45 13 53 31 | 5 12
> Tibeto-Burman_Sinitic_Wu
> Chadong HM ML M-L LM MH H-H 53 31 21 23 35 45| 45 21 (short vowel); 31
> 23 (long vowel) Tai-Kadai
> Lakkia-Liula ML LH MH MLH LML MHM 453 231ʔ 45 214~ 24 221 | 34 45
> Tai-Kadai
>
>
> -Mark
>
> [1] Note: unlike Larry, I take the Blang 55 51 31 13 system as being H
> HL ML LM, preferring more phonetic detail. I would not be adverse to 51
> and 41 being analysed as HL and ML, for example, but I'm quite happy to
> lose L as a primitive in the Blang system. As a result, my numbers and
> Larry's numbers are not directly comparable.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 at 03:15, Adam James Ross Tallman
> <ajrtallman at utexas.edu <mailto:ajrtallman at utexas.edu>> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> It's been suggested to me that the language I'm working on really
> makes a distinction between 0 vs. LH lexical marking, rather than 0
> vs. H as I had previously thought. Looking at connected speech the
> evidence for this seems very strong and I'm starting to overcome my
> initial resilience to the proposal.
>
> Has this been proposed for any other language? (i.e. a language that
> just has 0, LH or 0, HL and no corresponding lexical Ls and Hs). I
> want to know what the evidence looks like for other language? In my
> case it's primarily phonetic and I'm not really sure what strictly
> phonological evidence would look like.
>
> Notice I'm not asking about pitch accents or intonational marking
> etc. But cases where it can be shown that the categories are really
> lexically specified.
>
> Help would be appreciated, I hope everyone is well and healthy.
>
> best,
>
> Adam
>
> --
> Adam J.R. Tallman
> PhD, University of Texas at Austin
> Investigador del Museo de Etnografía y Folklore, la Paz
> ELDP -- Postdoctorante
> CNRS -- Dynamique Du Langage (UMR 5596)
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