[Lingtyp] Before-constructions

[Jesus Francisco Olguin Martinez]

I should probably mention the following aspect.

Consider the following constructions taken from Cristofaro (2003: 62):

(1) a. Mozart died [before finishing his Requiem Mass]
b. Mahler composed his early symphonies [before returning to Vienna in 1897]
c. [Before going back to my book], I have to turn in this paper

In (1a) the dependent situation (finishing the Requiem Mass) never takes
place, while in (1b) the dependent situation (returning to Vienna) actually
takes place after
the main one. Finally, (1c) does not exclude the possibility that the
dependent situation (going back to the book) may take place at some point
in time (Cristofaro 2003: 62)

English only has one clause-linking device to express the situations
described above. However, other languages have specialized clause-linking
devices that distinguish the situations shown in (1a-c).

I hope this makes sense.

Best,

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 5:33 PM MM Jocelyne Fernandez <
mmjocelynefern at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> John actually left because both verbs are simple action verbs in the past.
>
> But with for instance
>
> – John was anxious before leaving,
>
> the implication is not so evident any more.
>
> MMJocelyne Fernandez
> Le 19/07/2021 à 01:46, David Gil a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> Am I missing something here?  Consider
>
> (1) John ate before leaving
> (2) John ate before he left
>
> Surely in both of the above sentences, there IS an implication that John
> actually left.
>
> In terms of whether the two states of affairs take place, I don't see a
> difference between the above and the following:
>
> (3) John ate and then left
>
> David
>
>
> On 19/07/2021 02:01, Jesus Francisco Olguin Martinez wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Temporal construction expressing precedence (a.k.a. *before*-constructions)
> consist of a sequence of two clauses in which the main state of affairs
> happens before the dependent state of affairs (Kortmann 1997: 84-85;
> Cristofaro 2003: 159). The dependent state of affairs in a *before*-construction
> may take place at a subsequent time point. However, there is no implication
> about whether or not it actually takes place (Cristofaro 2003: 62).
>
> In my sample, there are various languages that use a specialized
> clause-linkage device to explicitly indicate that the dependent state of
> affairs in a *before*-construction actually takes place.
>
> I would be interested in hearing more about languages that have a
> clause-linking device that explicitly indicate this type of information.
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> Best,
> --
> Jesús Olguín Martínez
> Ph.D. Candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
> *University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB)*
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