[Lingtyp] Double-marked passive
Martin Haspelmath
martin_haspelmath at eva.mpg.de
Tue Mar 23 08:54:35 UTC 2021
It's great to see all these contributions to the discussion, because the
issue is important – we use traditional terms all the time and we think
that they are generally understood. But often, they do not have a clear
definition for everyone.
Mark Post wrote:
> I really think that this is a good illustration of how, in practice,
> that principle yields irreconcilably confusing results. One cannot
> help but develop a “comparative concept” on the basis of languages
> that one knows best, and structural definitions of “passive” tend
> strongly to favour a viewpoint from European languages. Hold this line
> too strongly, and one either misses or, potentially, includes and
> thereby distorts the properties of, constructions that evolved in
> response to the same sorts of functional pressures, but in different
> types of languages. Where does one draw lines in cases like this ...?
> I don’t see that we yet have an agreed set of principles for
> determining this, nor do we seem content with the uncertainties that
> can result.
And David Gil, too, says that my definition is "Eurocentric" because it
excludes elements that are not affixes (like Riau Indonesian /kena/,
which can occur on its own and thus is not a bound form, i.e. it cannot
be a prefix).
However, "passive" is a term that originates from European languages, so
I wouldn't say that a definition that is close to its origins is
Eurocentric. (Likewise, "classifier" originates in East Asia, and it
would be odd to say that a definition that excludes unit nouns like
English "bottle", in "three bottles of water", would be "Asiacentric".)
Bill Croft quite rightly emphasizes the distinction between
"function/construction" and "strategy" (which plays a big role in his
forthcoming book "Morphosyntax":
https://www.unm.edu/~wcroft/WACpubs.html), and he notes that some
traditional terms have been extended to be used for
"functions/constructions" generally, while others have been restricted
to (formal) "strategies".
Is there a general principle for choosing between these options? I think
that the main principle for scientific terminology should be
"anti-polysemy": A term should keep its meaning, to the extent possible.
When a new concept arises, e.g. when a discovery is made (such as
Givón's insight that passives play an important role in discourse
patterns), a new term should be created. (I say more about principles of
terminology in §4 of this paper: https://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/005489)
So the reason I would opt for the form-based definition of "passive" (as
opposed to the function-based definitions favoured by Bohnemeyer and
Givón-Croft) is that the term "passive" is generally used for a
strategy, in actual usage. It would be very odd to say that a sentence
with a fronted object and focused subject like German "Den Mann hat der
LÖWE gesehen" (= 'The man was seen by the LION') is a passive
construction. Typologists may be happy with such usage, but they will
not be understood by linguists more generally if they adopt it.
(Likewise, Keenan & Comrie's purely functional definition of "relative
clause" led to the very odd consequence that all adnominal adjectives
are relative clauses; this did not bother them, because they were
concerned only with accessibility, but we want to have a definition of
the legacy term "relative clause" that conforms better to actual usage.)
Maybe what distinguishes my thinking about these matters that I ask not
only what the best concepts are (which need labels to be attached to
them), but also how we could arrive at a situation where we no longer
talk past each other all the time. We will no doubt continue using terms
like "morph", "affix" and "passive" (because we have strong intuitions
about them), so regardless of whether these are good concepts, we need
definitions of the terms that largely conform to our intuitions.
Best,
Martin
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Martin Haspelmath
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
Deutscher Platz 6
D-04103 Leipzig
https://www.shh.mpg.de/employees/42385/25522
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