[Lingtyp] terminological question about local cases/adpositions

[Michael Daniel]

Dear Christian,

in East Caucasian linguistics, where the meaning of spatial domain (on top
of, inside) and motion (to, from, static) are expressed separately (though
essive = static is usually unmarked) there is a long standing tradition to
use capitalized latinate labels like Sub,Super, Post, In, Inter, Apud. -
see Aleksandr Kibrik's *Nominal inflection galore: Daghestanian, with side
glances at Europe and the world* // F.Plank (ed.). Noun phrase structure in
the languages of Europe. De Gruyter. Berlin - New York, 2003. С. 37-112. -
who explains this terminology, a good overview in English, as well as many
other publications on East Caucasian.

I may provide more references in a personal email, if needed.

Michael

ср, 24 мар. 2021 г. в 17:31, Christian Lehmann <
christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de>:

> May I briefly interrupt the epistemological debate with a much simpler
> question?
>
> Several languages (notably, many Uralic languages) display a rich local
> case system which neatly distinguishes between spatial regions ('top',
> 'bottom', 'interior', exterior' etc.) and local relations ('rest, motion
> to/from/through') to these or to the object irrespective of its regions.
> The descriptive tradition for such languages has responded to the structure
> of such paradigms by reflecting it in a set of Latinate terms of the
> following structure:
> adessive, allative, ablative
> inessive, illative, elative
> superessive, superlative (never mind the homonymy of this term), delative
>
> and many others. It does not matter at the moment to what extent the case
> systems or the terminology are systematic and complete. My concern is the
> distinction between rest (essive) and motion (lative). Such a distinction
> is made in local cases or adpositions of many languages. Contrasting with
> these, there are (possibly equally many or more) languages whose
> adpositions only code the spatial region, leaving the local relation to
> other components of the clause. My question is how we can apply the
> terminological pattern mentioned to these languages in order to get
> appropriate grammatical category labels and abbreviations for the
> morphological glosses of such adpositions. Here are some such concepts and
> corresponding ponderous terms:
> non-specific:    essive/lative
> top:    superessive/-lative
> bottom:    subessive/-lative
> interior: inessive/illative
> proximity: adessive/allative
> vicinity: apudessive/-lative
> and others.
>
> These terms have at least two disadvantages:
>
>    - They are long-winded.
>    - The 'lative' member of each pair has commonly been applied
>    specifically to the direction to(wards) the reference object, not generally
>    to a motion relation.
>
> The first pair in the list is often simply called 'locative'. But what
> about the others? Are there shorter, but equally systematic terms in use
> anywhere?
>
> Some may prefer just using English words like 'on', 'under', 'beside' to
> designate and gloss such adpositions or cases. Such a solution is fraught
> with problems, too:
>
>    1. These are no technical terms in a grammatical description, so they
>    don't imply a grammatical category and paradigm. (We can say such things as
>    'it is marked by the ablative', but hardly 'it is marked by "from"'.)
>    2. Some of these English prepositions (being SAE prepositions) do
>    imply a local relation, like English *in* is incompatible with
>    ablative directionality (must be *out of*).
>    3. Yet other spatial regions like vicinity are not matched by an
>    English preposition (*by* is too ambiguous, other candidates are too
>    specific).
>
> Ignoring problems 2 and 3 would therefore evoke mistaken ideas in the
> recipient of the description.
>
> Grateful for any useful hints,
>
> Christian
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