[Lingtyp] Someone whose father ...

[Jorge Rosés Labrada]

Hello everyone,

David Nash's example of a suffix made me think of a Piaroa suffix with a
similar function so this conversation has been very helpful (thank you,
Simone, for asking this question!)

Claire/Jean-Christophe, I took a look at your grammars and am I right in
assuming that these terms are not morphologically complex?

David, does that suffix serve other functions in the grammar or is it only
used to mark the kinship terms in this way?

Best,
Jorge
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On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:32 AM Claire Bowern <clairebowern at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bardi (Nyulnyulan, NW Australia) also has a reasonably full set of
> bereavement terms. There's a table on p47 of my 2012 grammar.
>
> Bowern. Claire (2012). *A Grammar of Bardi. *Mouton De Gruyter
>
> Claire
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:09 AM Raffaele Simone <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
> wrote:
>
>> This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot to you (and to
>> everyone).
>>
>> Raffaele
>>
>>
>> Il 16/02/2022 12:52, Jean-Christophe Verstraete ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi Raffaele,
>>
>> Following up on David Nash's message: see the following references for
>> sets of bereavement terms in Umpila and Yintyingka (Paman < Pama-Nyungan),
>> including the ones you are looking for. Hill (2018: 94) has further
>> references to similar terms in the same region.
>>
>> Hill, Clair. 2018. Person reference and interaction in Umpila/Kuuku Ya'u
>> narrative. PhD, Nijmegen & Leuven. p 94-95.
>>
>> <https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508>
>> <https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508>
>>
>> Verstraete, JC & B Rigsby. 2015. A grammar and lexicon of Yintyingka.
>> Berlin: Mouton. (See index 'bereavement terms')
>>
>> https://doi.org/10.1515/9781614519003
>>
>> Jean-Christophe
>>
>> On 2/16/2022 12:39 PM, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>>
>> My question was: do you know any language referring to* "someone whose
>> child [brother, sister, etc.] has died" *with a specific lexical item
>> (approx. correponding to widow and orphan)?
>>
>> RS
>> Il 16/02/2022 11:42, Sebastian Nordhoff ha scritto:
>>
>> On 2/16/22 11:36, Adam James Ross Tallman wrote:
>>
>> Hey Simone,
>>
>> My first question is what does "Someone to whom a child has died" mean?
>>
>>
>> X had a child. The child died.
>>
>> Cf widow: X had a spouse. The spouse died.
>> orphan: X had a parent. The parent died.
>>
>> Best
>> Sebastian
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