[Lingtyp] Two 1SG pronouns (in reported speech and beyond)

[Daniel Ross]

Denys,

What you describe regarding reported speech sounds familiar to something I
came across for Ainu. (That's not a language I specialize in, but one
included in my typological sample for a comparative project. See reference
grammars, or I'm sure others can help you with the details.) Here's an
example that was relevant to my research:

Arpa-an wa inkar-an rusuy kusu. (Bugaeva 2018:264)
go.SG-IND.S and see.SG-IND.S DESID because
'I wanted to try to go (to my parents-in-law's place).'

The "indefinite subject marker" (-an) is used for first-person subjects in
quotations (Bugaeva 2004:40-41), although its range of usage is wider than
that. It seems to be roughly a non-specific person category, i.e.
unmarked/default.

Bugaeva, Anna. 2004. Grammar and folklore texts of the chitose dialect of
Ainu (idiolect of Ito Oda). Kyoto: Nakanishi.

See also for example:
http://cblle.tufs.ac.jp/assets/files/publications/working_papers_02/section/055-072.pdf

Example source (but not otherwise about this topic):
Bugaeva, Anna. 2018. Ainu complex predicates with reference to Japanese. In
Prashant Pardeshi & Taro Kageyama (eds.), Handbook of Japanese Contrastive
Linguistics, 247–272. Berlin: De Gruyter Mouton.
https://doi.org/10.1515/9781614514077-009

More generally beyond that, there are various ways of marking embedded
persons differently in the case of switch-reference marking and
logophoricity (and obviation is somewhat similar, but at a discourse level
rather than about syntactic embedding per se). For an overview of
especially switch-reference, see Chapter 3 of my dissertation here:
https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.5546425

I hope that's somewhat helpful!

Daniel Ross
ALT webmaster



On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:20 AM Françoise Rose <francoise.rose at univ-lyon2.fr>
wrote:

> Dear Denys,
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> one basic distinction that may be encoded by first person pronouns is
> gender. Gender may then be analyzed as either grammatical or indexical, as
> discussed in the following paper (in French):
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> Rose, Françoise. 2013. “Le genre du locuteur et de l’allocutaire dans les
> systèmes pronominaux: genre grammatical et indexicalité du genre.” *Bulletin
> de La Société de Linguistique de Paris* 108 (1): 381–417.
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> Best,
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> *De :* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> *De la part de*
> Denys T.
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 21 janvier 2022 18:23
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> *Objet :* [Lingtyp] Two 1SG pronouns (in reported speech and beyond)
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> Dear all,
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> Maybe this question may sound odd to many, but I wondered if there are
> languages that would have more than one 1SG pronoun, and if yes, how would
> the two differ from one another? My question mainly relates to reported
> speech constructions, specifically self-quotations. Since it is quite safe
> to assume that Reported Speaker = Reporter in self-quotations , I wondered
> if some language would distinguish the two sources of consciousness: 'I-now'
>  as Reporter, and 'I-then' as Reported Speaker. I don’t think I have seen
> something like this in the literature (might have simply overlooked it),
> but if you have heard about something like that, I would be interested to
> know more. Any examples from the languages of your expertise where this (or
> any other similar distinction related to 1SG pronoun) occurs would be more
> than welcome!
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> Have a lovely weekend!
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> From Tartu,
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> Denys Teptiuk
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