[Lingtyp] IF and WHEN in the future
David Gil
gil at shh.mpg.de
Sun Jun 12 08:44:41 UTC 2022
Dear Sergey, dear all,
In Indonesian, the most common way of marking an "if/when clause", in
the future or otherwise, is by means of the marker /kalo/, as in
(1).(Etymologically, /kalo/ is derived from the combination of original
Malay /jika/ 'if' plus Arabic loan /lau/ 'if'.)
(1) Kalo tambah daun kunyit enak
KALO add leaf turmeric tasty
'If/when you add/added turmeric leaf it will be / was tasty'
However, like all function words in the language, /kalo/ does not
discriminate between parts of speech; it can apply equally readily to
expressions denoting events, activities, properties, things,
whatever.Thus, sentence (2) is equally natural:
(2) Kalo daun kunyit enak
KALO leaf turmeric tasty
'As for turmeric leaf, it's tasty'
As suggested by the English translation 'as for', /kalo/ in (2) seems to
be marking a (usually newly introduced) topic.This in turn suggests that
the "if/when" usages of /kalo/, as in (1), are also more appropriately
analyzable as involving a topic marker, with a more perspicuous
translation of (1) being along the lines of 'As for adding turmeric
leaf, that will be / was tasty'.
David
On 11/06/2022 16:59, Sergey Loesov wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> In Babylonian Akkadian corpora of the 1^st millennium BC the
> conjununction /kī/ is claimed to mean both ‘if’ and ‘when’ in the
> future-time clauses. Some people believe that clause-initial /kī/ is
> ‘if’, while /kī/ as a preverb is ‘when’. The evidence does not always
> confirm this claim. One immediately thinks about the German /wenn/,
> which is assumed to say both ‘if’ and ‘when’ in the future. What shall
> we make of it? Is it possible that language does not oppose a future
> condition and a future temporal clause? If yes, how come?
>
> Best,
>
> Sergey
>
>
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David Gil
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