[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Eline Visser
eelienu at pm.me
Fri Mar 11 12:37:22 UTC 2022
Dutch has <uche> for the coughing sound, with <ch> being pronounced as [x] or [ɣ], depending on dialect.
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> Dear all,
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> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon
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> I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
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> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
>
> a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
>
> version of it.
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> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
>
> way of indicating it in writing?
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> Thanks,
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> Raffaele
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> From: Jesse Gates stauskad at gmail.com
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> Dear Raffaele,
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> I always thought the word ‘cough’ had imitative origins in Germanic.
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> In Chinese 喀 kā (or reduplicated) is a coughing ideophone.
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> Best regards,
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> Jesse P. Gates, PhD
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> Nankai University, School of Literature 南开大学文学院
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> > On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 PM, hoelzlandreas at web.de wrote:
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> > Dear Raffaele,
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> > Manchu (Tungusic) has the following:
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> > keng 'the sound of coughing'
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> > keng kang 'the sound of many people coughing or clearing their throats'
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> > kohong kohong or korkong korkong 'the sound of repeated coughing'
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> > These would usually be integrated into the discourse with the help of the verb se- 'to say' that can also function as a quotative if following ideophones, imperatives, and direct speech.
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> > One of them is also the basis for the derivation of a verb:
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> > keng-si- or keng-še- 'to cough, to hack, to clear the throat; ...'
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> > Best,
> >
> > Andi Hölzl
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> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
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> > Von: "Raffaele Simone" rsimone at os.uniroma3.it
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> > An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
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> > Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> > --
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> > ===============
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> > Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
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> > Hon C Lund University
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> > Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
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> > Accademico della Crusca
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> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:18:57 +0000
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> From: Maia Ponsonnet maia.ponsonnet at uwa.edu.au
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> To: "hoelzlandreas at web.de" hoelzlandreas at web.de, Raffaele Simone
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> Hello,
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> It seems to me that "cough" is used as an ideophone in English comic strips?
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> Cheers, Maïa
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> Dr Maïa Ponsonnet
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> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 11:28 AM
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> To: Raffaele Simone rsimone at os.uniroma3.it
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> And Mandarin has an ideophone for coughing. For instance, in Guizhou (Southwestern Mandarin) there is:
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> kung kung kung 'the sound of coughing'
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> In Standard Pinyin, this would probably be written kong kong kong, but there does not appear to be a standardized written form for this in Chinese either.
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> Followed by the general attributive marker de 的, this can function as an (intensifying) attribute of the noun for 'cough' or 'sound'.
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> It can also be a verb 'to cough'.
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> Best,
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> Andi Hölzl
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> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
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> Von: "Raffaele Simone" rsimone at os.uniroma3.it
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> An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
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> Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
> --
>
> ===============
>
> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
>
> Hon C Lund University
>
> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
>
> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
>
> Accademico della Crusca
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> Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone
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