[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 90, Issue 35

Joseph Brooks brooks.josephd at gmail.com
Fri Mar 25 16:18:34 UTC 2022


Hi Samira,
In Yaw [itr], a Left May language of Papua New Guinea, there is a seemingly
limitless supply of terms for days before/after tomorrow. This is due to
the morphology in the language that allows any numeral (except 'one') to be
derived as such, starting with 2 days ago/2 days out: eg nineisc '4',
ninena '4 days ago', nineineina '4 days out', naninina '10 days out'
(nanisc '10').

Cheers
Joseph

On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 1:02 PM <lingtyp-request at listserv.linguistlist.org>
wrote:

> Send Lingtyp mailing list submissions to
>         lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         lingtyp-request at listserv.linguistlist.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         lingtyp-owner at listserv.linguistlist.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Lingtyp digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: terms for days after tomorrow (Christian Döhler)
>    2. Re: terms for days after tomorrow (Samira Verhees)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:25:03 +0000
> From: Christian Döhler <christian.doehler at posteo.de>
> To: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] terms for days after tomorrow
> Message-ID: <cbced654-dbac-ec2e-8b62-1aa07d19821d at posteo.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Dear Samira,
>
> The languages of the Yam family in Southern New Guinea have
> non-compositional terms for the after tomorrow, which are
> bi-directional. For example /nama/ in Komnzo can mean `the day before
> yesterday' or `the day after tomorrow', or /kayé /can be either
> `yesterday' or `tomorrow'. There is a paragraph on these in the Komnzo
> grammar <https://langsci-press.org/catalog/book/212> on page 97.
>
> Best,
>
> Christian
>
> Am 19.03.22 um 08:48 schrieb Samira Verhees:
> > Dear Lingtyp list,
> >
> > A student of mine is collecting data on lexemes denoting consecutive
> > days after tomorrow in East Caucasian (and neighboring) languages, and
> > we were wondering if anyone here knows of any typological research
> > that discusses the encoding of this concept (or perhaps more broadly
> > systems of naming days and their diachronic development), or any
> > language-specific work that explores such terms in some detail.
> >
> > In some East Caucasian languages, there are unique, non-compositional
> > terms for the day after tomorrow, the day after the day after
> > tomorrow, for up to 6 days after tomorrow. We have been able to find
> > some languages that also have a non-compositional term for the day
> > after the day after tomorrow, for example, but we can't seem to find
> > anything more elaborate than examples on internet fora or short
> > sentences in reference grammars.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Samira Verhees
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lingtyp mailing list
> > Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> > http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>
> --
> Dr. Christian Döhler
> Leibniz-Zentrum Allgemeine Sprachwissenschaft (ZAS)
> Schützenstraße 18
> 10117 Berlin
> Raum: 445
> Tel.: +49 30 20192 412
> https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9659-5920
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20220325/2871986c/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:30:38 +0300
> From: Samira Verhees <jh.verhees at gmail.com>
> To: Christian Döhler <christian.doehler at posteo.de>
> Cc: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] terms for days after tomorrow
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAEhEjMOUBkUvbNu+hJZxdHQfcKnts4xfsV-fAvGGG78cieZZxA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Great, thank you!
> I think this is the first data I received from New Guinea :)
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 1:25 PM Christian Döhler <
> christian.doehler at posteo.de> wrote:
>
> > Dear Samira,
> >
> > The languages of the Yam family in Southern New Guinea have
> > non-compositional terms for the after tomorrow, which are bi-directional.
> > For example *nama* in Komnzo can mean `the day before yesterday' or `the
> > day after tomorrow', or *kayé *can be either `yesterday' or `tomorrow'.
> > There is a paragraph on these in the Komnzo grammar
> > <https://langsci-press.org/catalog/book/212> on page 97.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christian
> > Am 19.03.22 um 08:48 schrieb Samira Verhees:
> >
> > Dear Lingtyp list,
> >
> > A student of mine is collecting data on lexemes denoting consecutive days
> > after tomorrow in East Caucasian (and neighboring) languages, and we were
> > wondering if anyone here knows of any typological research that discusses
> > the encoding of this concept (or perhaps more broadly systems of naming
> > days and their diachronic development), or any language-specific work
> that
> > explores such terms in some detail.
> >
> > In some East Caucasian languages, there are unique, non-compositional
> > terms for the day after tomorrow, the day after the day after tomorrow,
> for
> > up to 6 days after tomorrow. We have been able to find some languages
> that
> > also have a non-compositional term for the day after the day after
> > tomorrow, for example, but we can't seem to find anything more elaborate
> > than examples on internet fora or short sentences in reference grammars.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Samira Verhees
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lingtyp mailing listLingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.orghttp://
> listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Christian Döhler
> > Leibniz-Zentrum Allgemeine Sprachwissenschaft (ZAS)
> > Schützenstraße 18
> > 10117 Berlin
> > Raum: 445
> > Tel.: +49 30 20192 412https://orcid.org/0000-0002-9659-5920
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lingtyp mailing list
> > Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> > http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
> >
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20220325/f07ab00f/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lingtyp mailing list
> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Lingtyp Digest, Vol 90, Issue 35
> ***************************************
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20220325/dec26ae8/attachment.htm>


More information about the Lingtyp mailing list