[Lingtyp] Hohepa and Hale on Maori

wa foley williamafoley at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 20 14:32:51 UTC 2023


 the general view now in Oceanic linguistics is that the passive to ergative re-analysis in Maori is incorrect and if anything the change went the other way.  PPN was clearly ergative in case marking as witnessed by the two highest sub-groups in it, Tongic and Samoan group languages.  Eastern PN languages like Maori and Hawai'ian later developed passive voice.William
    On Thursday, 20 July 2023, 10:13:20 am GMT-4, William Croft <wcroft at unm.edu> wrote:  
 
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   The main reference I am aware of for this hypothesis is Sandy Chung's 1978 book:
Chung, Sandra. 1978.Case marking and grammatical relations in Polynesian. Austin: University of Texas Press.
   She cites both Hohepa 1967 and Hale 1968:
Hohepa, Patrick W. 1967. A profile generative grammar of Maori. Indiana University Publications in Anthropology and Linguistics, Memoir 20.
Hale, Kenneth. 1968. Review of Hohepa (1967). Journal of the Polynesian Society 77:83-99.
Best wishes,Bill
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                                                   2023/07/20

Dear Colleagues,

 

    Re: Hohepa and Hale on Maori

 

    Would you please help me?

    If I remember correctly, more than 40 years ago, Patrick Hohepa wrote an article (or a book?) on Maori and K. L. Hale wrote a review of it.

    Also, if I remember correctly, either Hohepa or Hale claimed as follows:

 

In Maori, passive constructions were used excessively and consequently they ceased to be passives and they became unmarked constructions.

 

    My requests are the following.

 

(1) Would you have bibliographical information on Hohepa’s article (or a book?)?

(2) Would you have a copy of Hohepa’s article (or a book?)?

(3) Would you have bibliographical information on Hale’s review?

(4) Would you have a copy of Hale’s review?

(5) Did Hohepa or Hale make a claim about Maori passives as shown above?

(6) Would you know any other work that is relevant to this claim?

(7) Would you have a copy of that work?

 

    I would appreciate your help.

 

Best wishes and thanking you in advance,

 

Tasaku Tsunoda

 


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