[Lingtyp] Grammaticalization of past/resultative meaning from "stay"

Wesley Jones wkj at uoregon.edu
Tue Mar 7 01:24:07 UTC 2023


Thank you all for the examples and references! I will of course continue to welcome any more.
Wesley
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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Grammaticalization of past/resultative meaning from "stay"

Colon marks tenseness of the vowel preceding it.


On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:34 PM Jess Tauber <tetrahedralpt at gmail.com<mailto:tetrahedralpt at gmail.com>> wrote:
In Yahgan, the root ka:gu: (also used prefixally to mean 'to the top, to fullness/completion' appears to connote staying in the same state (but increasingly so). The (perhaps etymologically related) ka:taka is used both lexically and grammaticalized as a verb suffix meaning 'incremental progressive' or 'more and more', 'bit by bit', etc.

Jess Tauber

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 4:13 PM Elad Eisen <elad.eisen at mail.huji.ac.il<mailto:elad.eisen at mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
Dear Östen, Wesley, and all,
The development (REMAIN > CHANGE OF STATE) seems to be shared by more than one language outside of the Circum-Baltic languages, including not only Spanish quedar (se) but also Italian rimanere, Arabic baqiya, and Neo-Aramaic pyāša.

Some references and examples can be found in the abstract of a talk I gave, where I suggested a grammaticalization path for the change REMAIN > CHANGE OF STATE:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEYwMlbX_h5ODY5b2o5enlweGRUZFN0bW8xOGpMTjRfQzFj/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-PXh0LtFFyyIXizAWhTywoA<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByEYwMlbX_h5ODY5b2o5enlweGRUZFN0bW8xOGpMTjRfQzFj/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-PXh0LtFFyyIXizAWhTywoA__;!!C5qS4YX3!EQ7CWqJgh5L5fdrXh2_yZ-z3ZSJoELHHA9zPnVhJmRxdSv0tacwi5-yaR-gdXxnLBNXlizf619G1_ya-f4n318M$>

Elad

Eisen, E. (2019, April 8). From remain to become: a static source for change of state verbs [Conference presentation abstract]. The International Conference for Graduate Students on Diverse Approaches to Linguistics, Jerusalem, Israel.

On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 at 14:00, Östen Dahl <oesten at ling.su.se<mailto:oesten at ling.su.se>> wrote:

In many or most Circum-Baltic languages (i.e. languages spoken around the Baltic sea), there has been a development of verbs meaning ‘remain, stay’ into verbs meaning ‘become’. Thus, in Swedish, “bli” can have both meanings, although the original one is less often found in contemporary language. Cf.

Jag blir här ‘I will stay here’

Jag blir så trött ’I am getting so tired’

”Bli” is also used as a passive auxiliary, e.g.

Min artikel blev refuserad ‘My paper was rejected’

This looks like an areal phenomenon going back to medieval times. “Bli”, which is found in all standard continental Scandinavian languages, comes from Middle Low German “bliwen”, but it is unclear if “bliwen” could have the meaning ‘become’. – Spanish “quedar” seems to be a similar case outside the Circum-Baltic area.



  *   Östen



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Hello all,



There is a construction in Horokoi (a.k.a. Wasembo, [gsp], part of the Madang branch of TNG) in which a clause chain with the final verb "stay/exist" can have various past/resultative-like meanings. I am wondering where else such a construction has been found.



The form is: [V-SR stay-TAM], where SR means switch reference marking (same-subject or different-subject). With same-subject marking, it literally says "I [V] and I stay"; with different-subject, it says "I [V] and it (impersonal) stays".



So far I have found the following meanings for the construction. The different-subject marking tends to be associated with more distal meanings (past, far past, anterior).

  *   literal (he built a house and it stayed [didn't fall down])
  *   stative (the food is dry, lit. it dries and it stays)
  *   copula/stative (you are like me, lit. you become and you stay)

     *   Note that this meaning only occurs when the first verb is "become". It does not mean "you became like me" (eventive).

  *   resultative/stative ([you hit it and] it is broken, lit. it breaks and it stays)
  *   past (I went, lit. I go and I stay)
  *   far past (they [ancestors] got salt from trees, lit. they take and it stays)
  *   anterior (I had said it to you, [then something else happened], lit. I say and it stays)

I have been thinking that this is unusual because "stay" as an auxiliary usually grammaticalizes into continuative rather than past/resultative. Heine & Kuteva (2002) mention "sit" > copula, but not this path of "become and stay" > "become-past" > copula, nor any cases of "stay" (or similar) to these past-like meanings.



I've been attributing this pathway to the sequential semantics of the clause chaining construction (Horokoi does not mark simultaneous vs sequential in medial verbs, as far as I know). Thus, the sequence "I [V] and (then) I stay" implies that V is no longer happening and I am staying in whatever state endures at the end of V's action. But perhaps this is not right, and I received a comment that this implicature need not hold for the literal meaning.



I have received comments that similar constructions are found in Dani languages, Malay, and some others. I found mention of something very similar in Mian by Fedden (2020). I have found no cognate constructions or comparative evidence to shed light on this for Horokoi (presumably Mian constitutes a parallel innovation because of the vast time depth separating Madang from Ok).



Please let me know if you have seen something like this or if you know of references about this grammaticalization pathway, thank you!



Wesley Kuhron Jones

Ph.D. student, University of Oregon

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