[Lingtyp] retrolative

[Johanna Laakso]

Dear Christian, dear all,

Finnish käydä (käy-/käv-) is a nice example of a retrolative motion verb, used (among other functions) with the location in a static locational case instead of an (in/on)to- or from-case:

Käv-i-n kaupa-ssa
go-PST-1SG shop-INE
‘I went to the shop (and came back)’

as opposed to

Men-i-n kauppa-an
go-PST-1SG shop-ILL
‘I went to the shop (and then, perhaps, elsewhere, or something else happened which is relevant to the story)’

Tul-i-n kaupa-sta
come-PST-1SG shop-ELA
‘I came from the shop’.

The Finnish equivalent of ‘fetch’, hakea (hake-) (or also noutaa [nouta-]), also seems to have genuine retrolative semantics:

Ha-i-n kaupa-sta maito-a.
fetch-PST-1SG shop-ELA milk-PART
‘I brought some milk from the shop (went to the shop and came back with the milk).’

Unfortunately, I don't know of a nice term to describe "retrolative" semantics ("retrolative" itself was unknown to me), and the promising articles about the semantics of motion verbs in Finnish which I was going to refer to are unaccessible at the moment. (But please check Tuomas Huumo's CG account on Finnish motion verbs: https://www.utupub.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/156251/The%20grammar%20of%20temporal%20motion.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y .)

Best
jl

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> Christian Lehmann via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> kirjoitti 08.08.2024 kello 11.19:
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> I was told occasionally that there is a local relation - let's call it retrolative - consisting of a movement to reference point R and back to the point of departure. In the languages that have it in their grammar, it would be in a paradigm with ablative, allative, perlative. Unless I am mistaken, English only has it embodied in the meaning of fetch, and likewise in German holen.
> Is retrolative the right term, or is the relation known under a different term?
> Please give me a representative example of the type 'Jane went to R round-trip' or 'Jane fetched the axe from the shed' using a retrolative case or adposition or a retrolative formative in some other structural category.
> Thanks in advance,
> Christian
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