[Lingtyp] R: Evaluative morphology expressing "authenticity/prototypicality"

Pier Marco Bertinetto piermarco.bertinetto at sns.it
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For anybody interested in reduplication, the dedicated Graz University
database is very useful:
http://reduplication.uni-graz.at
Unfortunately, at present, the database is unavailable due to a hacking
attack. But I've been told by Berhard Hurch that it should be (hopefully
soon) reactivated.
Best
Pier Marco


Il giorno ven 12 lug 2024 alle ore 18:43 Raffaele Simone via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:

> Dear all,
>
> A very useful but scarcely known collection of studies on reduplication *dans
> tous ses états* is “La réduplication”, special issue of *Faits de langue*,
> #39 2007, ed. by Alexis Michaud and Aliyah Morgenstern. Also “prototypical”
> reduplications are considered.
>
> Best,
>
> Raffaele
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> *Da:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> *Per conto di *Paolo
> Ramat via Lingtyp
> *Inviato:* venerdì 12 luglio 2024 16:35
> *A:* Mark Donohue <mhdonohue at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org> <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Oggetto:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
>
>
> Evaluative morphology expressing 'authentivity/protypicality
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> here's a fragment of article I'm writing  that concerns reduplication
>
>
>
> <<The iteration /reduplication [...] can also have morphological
> functions such as plural formation (= ex. (1)), a distributive function(=
> ex. (2)), an intensifying function (= examples (3) and (4)), or have
> particular semantic values such as the so-called ‘echo reduplication’, as
> in (5), etc.:[1] <#m_6180926085023523476__ftn1>
>
> (1)  Indonesian *buku buku* “books” (Stolz 2003: 18)
>
> (2)  Malti *bieb bieb* lit. door door, i.e. “from door to door” (Stolz
> 2006a: 119)
>
> (3)  It.  *un caffè caffè * “a real, good coffee” (Stolz 2003: 36; Ramat
> 2019: 151)
>
> (4)  Emmi (Western Daly) *dukandji “*big“ ~ *dukduk* “very big” (Louagie
> 2023: 555)
>
>          (5) Turkish   *dergi                          mergi**
> okumuyor *
>
>                   Newspapers           M:ECHO        read:NEG:PRES
>
> “(s)he does not read newspapers and the like’ (Stolz 2018: 248).
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> [1] <#m_6180926085023523476__ftnref1> Grandi (2017: 77) writes:
> «According to Medici (1959a: 84), the aim of a reduplicated construction
> such as *caffè caffè *(‘coffee coffee’ [= our ex. (3)], P.Rt.) is
> “affermare […] la pienezza delle qualità inerenti [alla base]” (‘to state
> the fullness / completeness of the qualities of the base word’). In other
> words, the primary function of reduplication would be to identify the
> prototype of a concept, its default value. If evaluative morphology (which
> includes intensification) encodes a deviation from a standard or from a
> default meaning, if its peculiar function is that of assigning a value
> which is different from that of the ‘standard / default’ to a concept,
> reduplication primarily expresses a full identification of an item with its
> standard image. It identifies the best exemplar of a
> class».
>                                                                        A
> good overview of the multifarious functions of RED can be obtained when
> looking into the subject index of van Lier 2023: 1087, s.v.
> ‘reduplication’. Generally speaking, we can say that RED is a widespread
> strategy in the world’s languages to express many related functions (see
> Fedriani 2017: 147).
>
> Refernces:
>
> Grandi, Nicola. 2017. Intensification processes in Italian. In Maria
> Napoli & Miriam Ravetto (eds.), 55-75.
>
> Louagie, Dana. 2023. Word Classes in Australian Languages. In Eva Van
> Lier (ed.), 544-571
>
> Ramat, Paolo, 2019.Tautologia e/o reduplicazione. *Rivista Italiana di
> Linguistica e Dialettologia,*          147-156.
>
> Stolz, Thomas. 2003. A new Mediterraneism. Word iteration in areal
> perspective. *Mediterranean             Language Review *15, 1-47.
>
> Stolz, Thomas. 2006a. (Wort-)Iteration: (k)eine universelle Konstruktion.
> In Kerstin Fischer &
>
>             Anatol Stefanowitsch (Hsgb.), *Konstruktionsgrammatik. Von
> der Anwendung zur Theorie*:         105-132. Tübingen: Stauffenburg.
>
>  Stolz, Thomas. 2018. (Non-)Canonical reduplication. In Anna Urdze (ed.), *Non-Prototypical
>        Reduplication* ("Studia Typologica"22), 201-277. De Gruyter
> Mouton: Berlin 2018.
>
>
> Van Lier, Eva (ed., 2023), *The Oxford Handbook of Word Classes. *Oxford:
> Oxford University Press.
>
>
>
> Best ,
>
> P.Rt.
>
> Addendum: see also *Éllēnas* *Éllēnas* “a true Greek man” (Kallergi,
> Haritini. 2015. *Total Reduplication as a category of expressives:
> (Counter)evidence from Modern Greek. *Benjamins
>
>
>
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> Il giorno ven 12 lug 2024 alle ore 02:40 Mark Donohue via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:
>
> Don't forget
>
>
>
> Jila Ghomeshi, Ray Jackendoff, Nicole Rosen and Kevin Russell.
> 2004. Natural Language & Linguistic Theory 22 (2): 307-357.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 at 09:48, Pin Wang via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Randy,
>
>
>
> I’d like to add an example: When chairing your talk at our 2018 language
> typology forum (University of Sydney), Prof Christian Matthiessen
> introduced you as a ‘linguist linguist’ ;-)
>
>
>
> Pin
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2024, at 2:26 am, Randy J. LaPolla via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi again Mira,
>
> A more exact natural example of what you are talking about was used by
> Larry Horn teaching Pragmatics many years ago: At an LSA conference someone
> got ill, so one person got up on stage and asked the attendees “Is there a
> doctor in the house?” and half the audience raised their hands. The person
> then said, “No, a * doctor* doctor!”
>
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 10 Jul 2024, at 8:55 PM, Mira Ariel <mariel at tauex.tau.ac.il> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Nigel,
>
>
>
> Yes, this is the trajectory Bardenstein and Ariel talk about. Better think
> of “a cookie cookie”. That can have both prototypical and intensified
> meanings.
>
> Mira
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On 10 Jul 2024, at 15:40, Nigel Vincent via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Interesting - I'd have interpreted that ad to mean not 'central/prototype'
> but something more evaluative: 'the best you can get' or words to that
> effect. The picture doesn't look like what I would consider a prototype
> cookie (or biscuit, as I would say!).
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
>
>
> Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
> Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
> The University of Manchester
>
>
>
> Linguistics & English Language
> School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
>
> The University of Manchester
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> https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Randy LaPolla via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* 10 July 2024 2:23 PM
> *To:* <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org> <
> LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
>
>
> Mira’s message reminded me of an English example where repetition
> narrows the term to central/prototype inferences:
>
>
>
> <image.png>
>
>
>
> In case the image doesn’t come out, it is the tag line on Pepperidge
> Farms’ Captiva cookie:
>
> “If you’re going to have a cookie, have a *cookie*”
>
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On Jul 10, 2024, at 15:42, Mira Ariel via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Dear Francesca and others,
>
>
>
> I'm curious to know if these prototypicalization morphemes sometimes
> evolve an intensifying function later.
>
>
>
> Bardenstein and I have a paper  in *Studies in* *Language  *46:2 (2022),
> where we trace the evolution of a number of intensifiers. Lo and behold,
> they evolve from expressions which narrow the application of the term to
> its central/prototpycal instances. Later on this narrower may evolve an
> intensifying function. We only discuss independent modifiers, but
> reduplication, even morphological one, can indicate intensification:
>
>
>
> Hebrew:
>
>
>
> *Yafe yafe *
>
> Beautiful beautiful
>
> 'Central concept of beautiful (not 'more or less beautiful')'/'Very
> beautiful'
>
>
>
> *Yefe.fe *(lexical reduplication)
>
> 'Very beautiful'
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Mira (Ariel)
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Riccardo Giomi via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 9:07 PM
> *To:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
>
>
> Dear Francesca (and all),
>
>
>
> Leti (Austronesian) has an "exactness" marker -- which again, actually
> appears to be a clitic, but anyway:
>
>
>
>    1. a. *N-tivl=e.* b. *N-tivla.*
>
> 3.SG-flap=*EXCT *3.SG-flap
>
> ‘It flaps.’ ‘It sort of flaps.’
>
> (2) a. *vuar=lalavn=e* b. *vuar=lalavn*
>
> big=mountain=*EXCT* big=mountain
>
> ‘a big mountain’ ‘a sort of a big mountain’
>
>
>
> van Engelenhoven, Aone, 2004. *Leti, a Language of Southwest Maluku *(Verhandelingen
> van het Koninklijk Instituut voor Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde 211). KITLV
> Press, Leiden.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Riccardo
>
>
>
> Riccardo Giomi
>
> Assistant Professor of Functional Linguistics
>
> University of Amsterdam
>
> Faculty of Humanities: Department of Linguistics
>
> Spuistraat 134, 1012 VB, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Christian Lehmann via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* 09 July 2024 19:44
> *To:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
>
>
> Dear Francesca,
>
> Cabecar (Chibchan) has a a formative *sí**̱* with a twofold distribution:
>
> a) As a derivational suffix on nouns, it means 'authentic', 'prototypical':
>
>    1. a. chíchi-sí̱
>
> dog-auth
>
>             ‘authentic dog’
>
> b. ju-sí̱
>
> house-auth
>
>             ‘authentic/real/legitimate house (i.e. traditional Cabecar
> house)’
>
> b) As an enclitic on adjectives, it means 'comparatively':
>
>    1. a. báá=sí̱
>
> nice=cmpr
>
>             ‘comparatively/truly nice’
>
> b. daláá=sí̱
>
> yellow=cmpr
>
>             ‘genuinely yellow’
>
> It fulfills this latter function in comparative constructions, too.
>
> Best, Christian
>
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