[Lingtyp] Verbs meaning 'and, with'

NAM Deokhyun devon_coast373 at toki.waseda.jp
Sun Nov 24 14:47:16 UTC 2024


Dear Jose Antonio Jodar Sanchez,

As I'm not sure to what extent it would be relevant, Korean uses as one of
its strategies to join noun phrases a converbal form of the verb *ha-ta*
'to do', 'to say'. Korean doesn't have pronominal affixes in the first
place. Examples (Yale Romanization):

a. *pap   ha-ko       koki-ka        masiss-ta*
    rice   do-CNV   meat-NOM  tasty-DECL
    'The rice and meat are tasty.'
b. *pap   ha-ko       koki-lul       mek-ess-ta*
    rice   do-CNV   meat-ACC  eat-PST-DECL
    '(I) ate rice and meat.'

Best,
Dokyon (Deokhyun Nam)

2024年11月24日(日) 22:53 Jose Antonio Jodar Sanchez via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>:

> Dear all,
>
> My colleague Andrey Drinfeld and I are looking at a group of verbs meaning
> 'and, with' in a family of Papuan languages, the Torricelli family. Instead
> of using linking devices such as conjunctions (e.g. English 'and') or
> affixes/clitics (e.g. Amharic -əm) to join two noun phrases, these
> languages use verbs which have pronominal affixes for either subject,
> object, or both. Examples from Walman and Yeri can be found in (1) and (2)
> respectively, with the 'and' verb in bold:
>
> (1) [Runon      *n-a-Ø*                                            chu]
>     y-an                       y-ayako-Ø
>  klay-poch ...
>       3SG.M     *3SG.M.SUBJ-and-3SG.F.OBJ*     wife       3PL.SUBJ-be.at
>    3PL.SUBJ-make-3SG.F.OBJ   taro-porridge ...
>       ‘[He and his wife] were making taro porridge ...’ (Brown and Dryer,
> 2008: 529)
>
> (2) Hem      teipa      dore     m-nobia      [Sila    *w-odɨ-Ø*
>              Lagosi].
>      1sg        then       get.up  1sg-talk.R    Sila
> *3SG.F-and.R-SG.F*     Lagosi
>       ‘I got up and told [Sila and Lagosi].’ (Wilson, 2017: 333)
>
> We have been operating under the assumption that this phenomenon is not
> attested outside the Torricelli family and a few Austronesian languages
> (such as Lamaholot), but we do not have concrete evidence one way or the
> other, and are considering the possibility that there may be other
> attestations of such a phenomenon elsewhere that have not gotten into the
> literature on this topic. We are wondering if anyone is aware of such a
> phenomenon being attested in other language families and parts of the world.
>
> Best,
>
> Jose.
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