[Lingtyp] autobenefactive = dative?

[Wiemer, Bjoern]

Dear Sergey,
Lithuanian is one such language. Its reflexive marker is productively used in this function (just as is German sich or reflexive markers in Romance languages), at any rate it is considerably more widespread than in East Slavic (see your examples).
In case this is relevant, the Lith. reflexive marker is neither clearly an affix nor clearly a clitic, as it moves within the word form depending on whether there is a prefix or not. Compare
               nu-si-pirkti, pirkti-s ‘buy for oneself’

As for its autobenefactive function, there is a paper by Vladimir Panov:
Exploring the asymmetric coding of autobenefactive in Lithuanian and beyond

in Baltic Linguistics 11 (2020), 343-371.

Probably, you can download it from
               https://www.journals.polon.uw.edu.pl/index.php/bl

Best,
Björn.


From: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> On Behalf Of Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp
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To: Silvia Luraghi <luraghi at unipv.it>
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Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] autobenefactive = dative?


Dear Silvia,

Yes, te tomarás can work; te prenderai as well.

But I am looking for languages which have "simple" dative pronouns (not headed by prepositions like a ti, para ti, etc.), formally different from the accusative ones (like in German, Russian, Ukrainian, Greek or Turkish) which also can be employed as indirect reflexives/autobenefactives.

Best,

Sergey



On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 at 18:18, Silvia Luraghi <luraghi at unipv.it<mailto:luraghi at unipv.it>> wrote:
The Romance languages.
Silvia

Il sab 5 ott 2024, 16:56 Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org<mailto:lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>> ha scritto:
Dear colleagues,
Are you aware of languages in which personal pronouns with dative readings (ich gebe dir, я даю тебе, я даю тобі, σου δίνω,  sana veriyorum, etc) also have indirect reflexive/autobenefactive readings?

Thank you very much!

Sergey
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