[Lingtyp] COME-passives

Paolo Ramat paoram at unipv.it
Sun Feb 23 16:10:57 UTC 2025


In Bavarian German you may say
(1) *Då kummt de nei(e) Schul gebaut*
“Hier wird die neue Schule gebaut”,
probably a loan from Ital.  *Qui viene costruita la nuova scuola*, or from
Rhaeto-Romance *Co^ vein fabricheda la scuola nuova*
See Ramat in "Lg Sciences" 20 (3) , 1998: 227ff.  (with reference to
Mayerthaler & Mayerthaler 1990).

Best,
Paolo Ramat



Il giorno dom 23 feb 2025 alle ore 13:56 Timur Maisak via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:

> Sure, see e.g. Maisak 2005 <https://www.academia.edu/35547425/> or Schulze
> 2015 <https://www.academia.edu/21211924/>.
>
> Best,
> Timur Maisak
>
> вс, 23 февр. 2025 г. в 15:42, Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>:
>
>> *Dear colleagues,*
>>
>> Are you aware of *COME-passives* in any of the world’s languages? In
>> Kurmanji, a North-West Iranian language, the passive voice is formed using
>> the verb *hatin* (‘to come’), which is fully conjugated for all TAM
>> forms, followed by the infinitive. This construction appears to be *diachronically
>> young*, because Kurmanji has a split ergative alignment. Its preterit
>> base (from which the infinitive seems to be formed secondarily) is a reflex
>> of the *PIU resultative participle in -ta*, and the choice between the
>> ergative and the absolutive depends entirely on the inherent transitivity
>> of the verb.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Sergey
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