6.220 Qs: Greek pronoun, Verbal parody, Vietnamese & Thai, THERM

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-6-220. Wed 15 Feb 1995. ISSN: 1068-4875. Lines: 128
 
Subject: 6.220 Qs: Greek pronoun, Verbal parody, Vietnamese & Thai, THERM
 
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:53:24 EST
From: lmf at cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Subject: Greek polite pronoun
 
2)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:18:35 EST
From: Debbie Rossen-Knill (drossen at linc.cis.upenn.edu)
Subject: examples of verbal parody wanted!
 
3)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:19:06 +1300
From: jaejung.song at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (jaejung song)
 
4)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:09:48 +0300
From: Institute of Linguistics (sysop at iling.msk.su)
Subject: THERM EXTRACTING
 
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:53:24 EST
From: lmf at cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Subject: Greek polite pronoun
 
I am doing research on address pronouns in Greek, and I'd like to find
out when the polite use of the 2nd person plural 'esis' (i.e. directed
to one person) entered the language.  After having checked many of the
major etymological dictionaries (Demetrakos, etc.) and histories of the
language with no success, I wonder if anyone can direct me to a source
that might have this information.
Thanks.
 
Lorna Feldman: lmf at cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
 
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:18:35 EST
From: Debbie Rossen-Knill (drossen at linc.cis.upenn.edu)
Subject: examples of verbal parody wanted!
 
 
I've developed a model of verbal parody and need to test it on instances of
verbal parody which occur naturally in conversation. If you have any such
example, or soon encounter one while engaged in verbal play,  I'd appreciate
it if you could send it to me (along with the hearer(s)response(s) to it, if
possible).
 
Deborah F. Rossen-Knill
drossen at dept.english.upenn.edu
 
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:19:06 +1300
From: jaejung.song at stonebow.otago.ac.nz (jaejung song)
 
To LINGUIST subscribers,
In Vietnamese and Thai, there is an interesting phenomenon wherein the
lexical verb GIVE (i.e. _cho_ in Vietnamese, and _hay_ in Thai) can be used
in conjunction with adjectives to express what may be expressed by manner
adverbs in other languages. E.g. (The following Vietnamese data are
provided by Ngo Thanh Nhan)
(1) anh cho to to)i mo>.t quye>?n sa'ch (YOU GIVE I ONE classifier BOOK)
(2) no'i cho nhanh (SPEAK GIVE FAST)
It seems that in these languages the use of _cho_ as an 'adverbialiser' is
only possible in 'hypothetical' (or irrealis?) situations such as commands,
wants, etc.  Thai is similar to Vietnamese in this respect (Noss 1964:177).
Are you aware of other languages which behave this way or in a similar
way?  If so, I would like to hear from you (e.g. languages, references,
etc.).  I posted the same query to the SEALANG List some time ago.  Those
who responded to that list need not reply again (unless, of course, you
have new info or data).
If there is enough interest, I will post a summary.  Thank you for your
attention.
Jae Jung Song
University of Otago
Dunedin, NZ
 
Noss, Richard B. 1964. Thai: Reference grammar. Washington: Foreign Service
Institute.
 
 
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Jae Jung Song (Dr)
Linguistics Section
School of Languages
University of Otago
P.O.Box 56
Dunedin
NEW ZEALAND
Tel: +64 3 479 8103
Fax: +64 3 479 8558
E-mail: jaejung.song at stonebow.otago.ac.nz
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:09:48 +0300
From: Institute of Linguistics (sysop at iling.msk.su)
Subject: THERM EXTRACTING
 
 
 Can anyone on this list suggest any useful references/ideas on the following
 topic: automatic extracting therminological info from the text
 (especially automatic extracting/creating of therminological systems?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Vladimir RYKOV
 
   Linguistic Institute, Russ Acad of Sciences
                                                   rykov at iling.msk.su
 
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