11.668, Qs: Igbo/Prescriptivism, Teletubbies Language

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Subject: 11.668, Qs: Igbo/Prescriptivism, Teletubbies Language

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Date:  Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:01:31 +0200
From:  john at research.haifa.ac.il (John Myhill)
Subject:  Igbo, history of English prescriptivism

2)
Date:  Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:13:51 +0100
From:  Claudia Bubel <c.bubel at rz.uni-sb.de>
Subject:  Teletubbies language

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:01:31 +0200
From:  john at research.haifa.ac.il (John Myhill)
Subject:  Igbo, history of English prescriptivism

To any linguists who know about the above topics,
I'm doing a paper on comparative prescriptivism. I'm looking for information
on:
(1) Prescriptivism in Igbo (=Ibo). My understanding is that there was
a version of Igbo called 'Union Igbo' which was used in the first translation
of the Bible into Igbo which was an artificial compromise between various
Igbo dialects, but this has given way as a standard to a more normal
standard based upon the native usage of the most influential group in the
society. Does anyone out there know about this development?
(2) I am interested in how forms previously written in highly prestigious
texts can be declared 'incorrect' later, e.g. in English double negatives
and aks for ask. I know for example that 18th century grammarians like
Bishop Lowth proscribed double negatives because they were 'illogical' and
that by the 19th century double negatives were used to portray lower-status
speakers, but which came first? Did prescriptivists say 'double negatives are
wrong' and then the higher classes adopt this prescription but the lower classes
didn't? Or did the higher classes first adopt a distinctive usage
(independently) and then the prescriptivists came up with this `logical'
rationalization? And what were the social circumstances of aks>ask? I would
also be interested in hearing about any other cases of this general type,
where
a form used in prestigious texts is not only declared obsolete but literally
proscribed.
Please send any responses to john at research.haifa.ac.il (I'm not on LINGUIST).
Thanks very much.
John Myhill


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Date:  Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:13:51 +0100
From:  Claudia Bubel <c.bubel at rz.uni-sb.de>
Subject:  Teletubbies language

Dear colleagues,

	We are planning to do a presentation on the Teletubbies for the university
open day. Has anyone done linguistic research on Teletubby language yet?
Andrew Davenport, the co-creator and scriptwriter, has a background in
speech sciences. Of interest for the presentation is of course that the
language of the tubbies mirrors toddlers' own speaking efforts. Although,
after massive complaints from parents and academics the creators put in
more "adult" language. The programme is also of interest with respect to
the varieties of English spoken. The American version, for example,  has an
American narrator, but the tubbies themselves speak British English
varieties. There also seem to be some tubby-specific expressions.
Any thoughts?


Many thanks,
Claudia Bubel.


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Claudia Bubel
Wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiterin
Lehrstuhl Prof. Dr. Neal R. Norrick
Fachrichtung 8.3 Anglistik
Universität des Saarlandes
Postfach 15 11 50
D-66041 Saarbrücken

Tel.: 0681 - 302 - 2270
e-mail:  c.bubel at rz.uni-sb.de
url: http://www.uni-sb.de/philfak/fb8/norrick/bubel.htm


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