LL-L: "Delectables" LOWLANDS-L, 16.NOV.1999 (06) [E]
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From: john feather [johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk]
Subject: Delectables
Ron
You wrote in your "corrections":
(1) >I think _Stockfisch_ only refers to the fish in its dried stage. I
don't know what we would call the finished version -- by the Norwegian or
Swedish name, I suppose.
(2) >I believe that _lutfisk_ is Swedish and that _lutefisk_ is Norwegian.<
Regarding (2) I hoped that no-one would worry about that "e" but of course
you're right. I left out P. "bacalhau" previously because I wasn't sure of
the spelling.
Re (1), Chambers Dictionary interprets "stockfish" as "unsalted dried hake,
cod, etc, commonly beaten with a stick before cooking" [To make sure it's
quite
dead?] It gives for the derivation "Prob Du `stokvisch'". Whether the
beating bit is true or not the implication seems to be that this is the
origin of the "stock" element (though CD doesn't translate the Dutch): why
bother to mention it otherwise? (If there is another kind of dried cod, etc,
which _isn't_ commonly beaten with a stick, it should obviously be mentioned
to avoid confusion.) Duden and De Vries, however, agree that "stockfish" is
dried on a framework made of sticks.
I don't know how widely the word "stockfish" is used in English but I
suppose that by now it has acquired a folk etymology as if derived from
"stock" = "store". This meaning also derives from "stock" = "stem", etc.
John Feather johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk
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