LL-L: "Historical linguistics" LOWLANDS-L, 11.AUG.2000 (09) [E]

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From: Roger Thijs [roger.thijs at village.uunet.be]
Subject: LL-L: "Historical linguistics" LOWLANDS-L, 11.AUG.2000 (05) [E]

At 09:18 11-8-2000 -0700, you wrote:
From: john feather [johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk]
Subject: Historical linguistics
 >>>>> Roger asked:
 >Would you consider the J of Jim as two consonants or as a single one? In my
little English dictionary one writes indeed dz ...<
I would think one consonant but two phonemes. What sort of English
dictionary is this (size apart)? In monolingual English dictionaries
produced in English-speaking countries it is sufficient to give the phonetic
transcription "j" because that's how we normally pronounce the letter. <<<<<

Well I'm using (since 25 years) :
A. S. Hornby, Oxford advanced learner's dictionary of current English,
1974, Oxford University Press, Third edition
1975, Fourth Impression,   xxvii + 1055 pp
So I get (with "z," for "z with a tail") page 463:
'dz,im 'kr at U    (U standing for a reversed omega) for Jim Crow
'dz,im at ni       for ji-miny
'dz,imi         for Jimmy, etc.
I presume it's time for me getting a new edition???

Regards,
Roger
r.thijs at ieee.org

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