LL-L: "Names" LOWLANDS-L, 11.AUG.2000 (08) [E]

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From: Henry Pijffers [hpijffers at home.nl]
Subject: LL-L: "Names" (was "Standardization") LOWLANDS-L,        11.AUG.2000
(01) [E]

John hef schreven:
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>Henry wrote:
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>>What I have a problem with btw, is foreigners (and most Dutch people as
>well) calling the Netherlands Holland. <
>
>Does it matter what foreigners call a place? These "incorrect" names are
>often interesting historical relics.
>
Well, I guess foreigners just don't know any better, so I don't mind much when
they call it Holland. But Dutchmen should know better... People from Holland
(1 of the 2 provinces...) don't like it either, when some foreigner thinks
Holland
is a German state or something like that.

grouten,
Henry

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From: Colin Wilson [lcwilson at iee.org]
Subject: LL-L: "Names" (was "Standardization") LOWLANDS-L, 11.AUG.2000 (01)
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At 08:51 11/08/00 -0700, john feather wrote:
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>BTW, I have a friend who works at the Royal Netherlands Embassy in London
>who objects to English people using both "Holland" and "Dutch": not a very
>diplomatic stance!

Interesting. Can we take it that the objection is to the use of "Holland"
to mean "the Netherlands", rather than its correct use? If so, then I
understand this entirely.

On the other hand, I don't understand the objection to "Dutch". I
suppose we could say "Netherlandic", but what's wrong with "Dutch"?
It isn't (to my knowledge) a _pars pro totem_ as "Holland" is.

Colin Wilson.

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