LL-L: "Phonology" LOWLANDS-L, 21.NOV.2000 (01) [E]

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From: Jorge Potter [jorgepot at caribe.net]
Subject: LL-L: "Phonology" LOWLANDS-L, 19.NOV.2000 (03) [E]

> Lone Olesen wrote:

> I have listened to many speakers of Spanish from both
> Spain and Latin America, and I never understood their
> intervocalic /d/ to be the same as the one in Danish -
> I understand this Spanish "d" to be slightly "harder",
> the difference is very small, but I think it is there.
> Now I'm truly sorry I'm not able to use the phonetic
> signs, otherwise I could explain myself a little bit
> better. Eg. a word like "minutter" in Danish becomes
> "minudder" because of the lenition of intervocalic
> "t", if you try to pronounce it with a "soft d"
> instead, it sounds incorrect - but, if you pronounce
> "minutter" wich a Spanish intervocalic "d", it would
> not sound that wrong, because the Spanish d would be
> less "gliding" and thus resemble the correct
> pronounciation.

Dear Lowlanders,

The Spanish "d" is pronounced with the tip of the tongue front in the mouth,
against the teeth and alveolar ridge. Although farther forward, it is very
close in sound to the English "th" of "their," When intervocalic it is softer.
Sometimes people eliminate it altogether, saying for example  "colorao" (red)
instead of "colorado," and are quite aware they are doing it. It's sort of a
style.

For a "d" madrileños use a very strong, exaggerated  "th" sound....twice when
they say "Madrid."

Hasta otra,

Jorge Potter

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