LL-L: "Folklore" LOWLANDS-L, 13.OCT.2000 (03) [E]

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From: niels.winther at dfds.dk
Subject: LL-L: "Folklore"

From: niels winther [niels.winther at dfds.dk]
Subject: Folklore

A new name for a middle finger. Is it a loan?

The middle finger, also called _impudicus_ or _lewd_ has got a new name in the
circles of young people here in Denemarken. I think I will spell it
_fokfinger_
because Jutish has _fok_ and _fokeri_ in the obsc. sense, that is the English
sense, not the Dutch( a strong case of faux amis), but young people do not
seem
to be aware of that, and that is of course especially not the case in
Copenhagen. So is this new name for the middle finger known from other
Lowlands
or is it a local combination, only the first syllable being imported?
The pronunciation of the first vowel varies from sampa [Q] to [u].
When the lewd is pointed at somebody, it is called "to give them the finger".
The word is completely inbürgered with young people, since even small children
use it without knowing or thinking of the etymology.

rgds
niels

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From: niels winther [niels.winther at dfds.dk]
Subject: Folklore

Summary of fingernames

Dear Lowlanders, please help!
Corrections and additions are needed.

rgds
niels
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   Comp Anatomy  Human Anatomy    Other Latin term
   ------------  -------------   --------------------------
1. digitus I    :pollex         :
2. digitus II   :index          :salutaris, demonstratorius
3. digitus III  :dgt.medius     :impudicus
4. digitus IV   :dgt.annularis  :medicinalis
5. digitus V    :dgt.minimus    :auricularis

   O English
   ---------------- ---------------------------------------
1. thuma            thymel
2. scite-finger
3. long-finger      læwede
4. gold-finger      hring-finger
5. ear-finger

   M English
   ---------------- ---------------------------------------
1. thuma
2. towcher,         fore-man
3. long-man         lewd
4. lech-man
5. little-man       auricular

   English
   ---------------- ---------------------------------------
1. thumb            thumbkin
2. forefinger       foreman, pointer
3. middle finger    middleman, lewd
4. ringfinger       ringman, medical finger
5. little finger    littleman, pinkie

   LS Herman Rempel
   ---------------- ---------------------------------------
1.                  lüskjekjnekja
2.                  bottallekja
3.                  lankhauls
4.                  goltrinja
5.                  kleene Finja

   LS Ron
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. duum/dumen       dickerdriefmann
2. wiesfinger       puttenlicker
3. middelfinger     langemann
4. ringfinger
5. lütt(e) finger   pinkefinger

   LS Henry
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. duum             ?
2. wiesfinger       lickepot
3. middelfinger     lange Jan
4. ringfinger       ringeling
5. pink             kleine ding

   Dutch
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. duim             duimelot
2. wijsvinger       likkepot
3. middenvinger     lange Jaap
4. ringvinger       ringeling
5. pink             't kleine ding

   Zeelandic
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1.                  dumelot, dumelieng
2.                  likkepot, potteschrabber
3.                  lange Jan
4.                  riengelvieng
5. Pienke           't kleine dieng

   Afrikaans
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. duim             duimpie
2.                  duimpie se maat
3.                  langeraat
4.                  flikkeflooi
5.                  piepie in die kooi
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
...........
   Danish
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. tommel           tommeltot, tommelfinger
2. pegefinger       slikkepot, peger
3. langfinger       langemand, lange Lars
4. ringfinger       guldbrand, giftefinger, lægefinger
5. lillefinger      lille Peter spillemand

   Norwegian
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. tommel           tommeltott
2.                  slikkepøtt
3.                  langetong
4. ringfinger       ringefing, gullbrand
5.                  litjegoddagemannjen

   ---------------  ---------------------------------------

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Folklore

Thanks, Niels!

Here in addition for Mennonite Low Saxon (Plautdietsch) as given by Herman in
"Kjenn Ji Noch Plautdietsch" (http://www.mennolink.org/doc/lg/index.html),
with questions:

   LS Herman Rempel
   ---------------- ---------------------------------------
1. Düme             Lüskjekjnekja / Kjleendümkje.
2. Fäafinja         Bottallekja
3. Meddelfinja?     Lankhauls
4. (Rinkjfinja?)    Goltrinja
5. Kjleene Finja

The LS date I supplied are Northern Low Saxon (N. L. German), and those that
Henry supplied are Twente Low Saxon.

   Norwegian (Bokmål)
   ---------------  ---------------------------------------
1. tommel           tommeltott
2. pekefinger       slikkepøtt
3. langfinger       langetong
4. ringfinger       ringefing, gullbrand
5. lillefinger*     litjegoddagemannjen

* Nynorsk _veslefinger_ (The other official names seem to be the same.)

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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