LL-L: "Folklore" LOWLANDS-L, 13.OCT.2000 (03) [E]
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A=Afrikaans, Ap=Appalachean, D=Dutch, E=English, F=Frisian, L=Limburgish
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From: niels.winther at dfds.dk
Subject: LL-L: "Folklore"
From: niels winther [niels.winther at dfds.dk]
Subject: Folklore
A new name for a middle finger. Is it a loan?
The middle finger, also called _impudicus_ or _lewd_ has got a new name in the
circles of young people here in Denemarken. I think I will spell it
_fokfinger_
because Jutish has _fok_ and _fokeri_ in the obsc. sense, that is the English
sense, not the Dutch( a strong case of faux amis), but young people do not
seem
to be aware of that, and that is of course especially not the case in
Copenhagen. So is this new name for the middle finger known from other
Lowlands
or is it a local combination, only the first syllable being imported?
The pronunciation of the first vowel varies from sampa [Q] to [u].
When the lewd is pointed at somebody, it is called "to give them the finger".
The word is completely inbürgered with young people, since even small children
use it without knowing or thinking of the etymology.
rgds
niels
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From: niels winther [niels.winther at dfds.dk]
Subject: Folklore
Summary of fingernames
Dear Lowlanders, please help!
Corrections and additions are needed.
rgds
niels
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Comp Anatomy Human Anatomy Other Latin term
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1. digitus I :pollex :
2. digitus II :index :salutaris, demonstratorius
3. digitus III :dgt.medius :impudicus
4. digitus IV :dgt.annularis :medicinalis
5. digitus V :dgt.minimus :auricularis
O English
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1. thuma thymel
2. scite-finger
3. long-finger læwede
4. gold-finger hring-finger
5. ear-finger
M English
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1. thuma
2. towcher, fore-man
3. long-man lewd
4. lech-man
5. little-man auricular
English
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1. thumb thumbkin
2. forefinger foreman, pointer
3. middle finger middleman, lewd
4. ringfinger ringman, medical finger
5. little finger littleman, pinkie
LS Herman Rempel
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1. lüskjekjnekja
2. bottallekja
3. lankhauls
4. goltrinja
5. kleene Finja
LS Ron
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1. duum/dumen dickerdriefmann
2. wiesfinger puttenlicker
3. middelfinger langemann
4. ringfinger
5. lütt(e) finger pinkefinger
LS Henry
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1. duum ?
2. wiesfinger lickepot
3. middelfinger lange Jan
4. ringfinger ringeling
5. pink kleine ding
Dutch
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1. duim duimelot
2. wijsvinger likkepot
3. middenvinger lange Jaap
4. ringvinger ringeling
5. pink 't kleine ding
Zeelandic
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1. dumelot, dumelieng
2. likkepot, potteschrabber
3. lange Jan
4. riengelvieng
5. Pienke 't kleine dieng
Afrikaans
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1. duim duimpie
2. duimpie se maat
3. langeraat
4. flikkeflooi
5. piepie in die kooi
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Danish
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1. tommel tommeltot, tommelfinger
2. pegefinger slikkepot, peger
3. langfinger langemand, lange Lars
4. ringfinger guldbrand, giftefinger, lægefinger
5. lillefinger lille Peter spillemand
Norwegian
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1. tommel tommeltott
2. slikkepøtt
3. langetong
4. ringfinger ringefing, gullbrand
5. litjegoddagemannjen
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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Folklore
Thanks, Niels!
Here in addition for Mennonite Low Saxon (Plautdietsch) as given by Herman in
"Kjenn Ji Noch Plautdietsch" (http://www.mennolink.org/doc/lg/index.html),
with questions:
LS Herman Rempel
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1. Düme Lüskjekjnekja / Kjleendümkje.
2. Fäafinja Bottallekja
3. Meddelfinja? Lankhauls
4. (Rinkjfinja?) Goltrinja
5. Kjleene Finja
The LS date I supplied are Northern Low Saxon (N. L. German), and those that
Henry supplied are Twente Low Saxon.
Norwegian (Bokmål)
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1. tommel tommeltott
2. pekefinger slikkepøtt
3. langfinger langetong
4. ringfinger ringefing, gullbrand
5. lillefinger* litjegoddagemannjen
* Nynorsk _veslefinger_ (The other official names seem to be the same.)
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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