LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 20.FEB.2001 (01) [E]

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From: Teterevenkow Andrej [teterev at ssu.samara.ru]
Subject:

Dear Lowlanders,

Ron Hahn wrote:

>Note that Russian has
>_pavlin_ rather than just *_pav_. Something strange and interesting is
>going on here. Can any of you help?

Stefan Israel wrote:

>Could the -uun/luun (and maybe the Russian -lin) be a
>pseudofrench ending, tacked on to make a foreign word look
>"properly foreign"? I had that gut reaction, but I haven't
>thought of any good basis to pin that on.

"The Historico-etymological Dictionary of Modern Russian" by P.Ya. Tchernykch
1999 gives the following explanation of Russian 'pavlin' (first mentioned in
Russian dictionaries 1704):

It is unlikely to have any relation to French 'pavillon' (contrary to the
opinion of Russisches Etymologisches Woerterbuch von Max Vasmer). It has
rather been derived from Latin ''pavoninus' - "many colored; of the peacock"
(showing a dissimilation of n:n>l:n). (1 part, p.615)

The female form 'pava' which seems to have been the originally common form for
both male and female species is supposed to be a common Slavic loan from
Latin.

S privetom,

Andrei Teterevenkov

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

Thanks for the explanation above, Andrei.  It was a pleasure to hear from one
of our Russian subscribers.

For the benefit of more recent subscribers, let me explain that Andrei
responded to my question why the Low Saxon (Low German) word for 'peacock' was
_Pageluun_ [p`Qge'lu:n], specifically what the origin of the _...luun_ part
may be, and if there was any connection with Russian _pavlín_.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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