LL-L "Place names" 2001.11.02 (04) [E]

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From: Colin Wilson <lcwilson at starmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Place names" 2001.11.01 (05) [E/LS]

At 23:28 01/11/01, Reinhard/Ron wrote:

>Sometimes the town of Jörk (German "Jork"), Lower Saxony, comes to mind,
>situated in the Old Land (Altes Land) on the border with Hamburg.  (E.g.,
>http://www.stadtplan.net/brd/niedersachsen/jork/home.html)  Is there any
>connection between this name and that of York, England (and New York, USA)?
>"Jörk" seems like a strange name.  Does any of you have any idea what the Old
>Saxon name was (*"Jor(w)ik"?) and what the meaning is?  Could it be possible
>that the name was borrowed the other way around, from England to Lower
>Saxony?  Does any of you have any idea?

I don't know what the ancient Saxons called it, but the Vikings
called it "Jorvik", in modern Welsh it's "Efrog" (a name presumably
derived from ancient British), and in Latin it's "Eboracum". As we
can see, it's quite an old name, and if there's been any borrowing
between England and Lower Saxony, it looks as if it's been from the
former to the latter.

By the way, I'll stand corrected if anyone knows better than I do
the spellings of the names above.

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                               the barra wadna row its lane
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