LL-L "Identity" 2002.12.30 (05) [E]

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From: Daniel Prohaska <daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2002.12.30 (01) [E]


Gabrielle wrote:
"Now, this is a concept I have great difficulties with, since, on the
few
occasions where I am truly "proud" of a person or a people on the whole,
this is about their very own general achievements and (peaceful)
attitudes.>>

Harlan Ross May responded:
>>To look with pride upon one's own personal accomplishments is gross
pretentionsness. But the pride of a people is something greater than
self.<<

Lowena dheugh why oll,

  I concur with Gabriele here. Pride in one`s own achievment has
absolutly nothing to do with gross pretentiousness. Pride does not
necessarily mean boasting.
  One can feel ties or links to one`s descent, but pride - I don`t know
- feels kind of weird to me. I keep seeing people waving flags about
singing patriotic songs and following THE STRONG MAN.
  I can not feel proud of the blood that my ancestors shed. It´s just
another painful war in history. I know what I´m talking about. My mixed
heritage grants me the possibility to look at the greater picture from
all sides. My Irish and Jewish background, need I say more. Uncles
fighting in WWII on opposing sides etc. blood, blood, misery,
destruction, proverty, starvation, fear. There´s no room for pride there
I´m very sorry.

Gans oll ow holon vy, Dan


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