LL-L "Names" 2002.06.14 (04) [E/LS]

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From: "Marco Evenhuis" <evenhuis at zeelandnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2002.06.14 (03) [E]

Ron asked:

> Lowlanders,
>
> On a different note, can any of you tell me what the Dutch equivalent of
> the Zeelandic (Zeêuws) place name "Kwaèdamme" is?

Kwaèdamme is Kwadendamme, a small village some 10 km's south of Goes.

Marco

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From: globalmoose at t-online.de (Global Moose Translations)
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2002.06.14 (02) [E/LS]

But "duiven" is the Dutch word for pigeons or doves - I should say that
at
least some of these place names must refer to birds, then! The same
could be true for the Lower Saxon names, especially "Duvennest" (which I
would take to mean "dove's nest"). Correct me if I'm wrong...

Groetjes,
Gabriele [Kahn]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

Thanks for the info "Kwaèdamme" = "Kwadendamme", Marco.  I needed it for
a part of a "project" which I will announce shortly.

Hi, Gabriele!  So good to have you back in the fold!  What you said
about _Duven..._ / _Duiven..._ makes a lot of sense to me.  I had also
always thought that they refered to doves or pigeons, but I went with
what Helge Tietz had said earlier today:

> Ik mutt woerkli seggen dat ik ni seker boen of wi dat
> word "leeg" in Wistedh no bruk hebbt, wul hebb wi
> "sied" bruk ("de stool is mi to sied"). Dat magh wul
> ween dat dat een ool word is wat vlich min
> Groessoellern no bruk hebb, awer voendaaghs heff ik
> dat nuems meer hoert, wul begreep ik wat dat beduet.
> Foeher haett man ok "duven" bruk so as in "Duvenstedt"
> doch dat word ward ok all lang ni meer bruk.

He seemed to be implying that _duven_ (as in Duvenstedt) used to mean
the same as _leeg_ and _sied_ 'low'.  It was news to me, and currently I
do not have any dictionaries here to verify it.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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