LL-L "Etymology" 2002.03.11 (06) [D/E]

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From: "W. Jaap Engelsman" <engelsma at euronet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.03.10 (05) [E]

Dear Lowlanders,

in de stoet-kwestie is het "Etymologisch dialectwoordenboek" van A.A.
Weijnen (1996) nog niet geciteerd, meen ik. Hij schrijft:

stuut, stoet, stoeten (dimin.) stuitje "boterham, eerste snee, bepaald
brood" (Vlaams, Zeeuws, Noordhollands, Noordoostnederlands) = Duits
dialect
stiutn [met korte u] "bepaald brood". Metaforisch = Middelnederduits
stût
"bil", verwant met Nederlands stuit "onderste deel van de ruggegraat"
(vgl.
Oudhoogduits stiuz, Hoogduits steiss, ablautend verwant met stoten en
eigenlijk betekenend: "het stompe deel". [literatuur weggelaten]

Jaap Engelsman

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

I wrote:

> And another etymological problem:
>
> In some Low Saxon dialects, _Knuut_ or _Kanuut_ (Dutch spelling <knoet>
> ~ <kanoet>) means 'comrade', 'mate' (much like also _Macker_ ~
> _makker_).  What is the etymology of this?  Does it have anything to do
> with the Scandinavian men's name Knud ~ Knut (earlier English Canute)?
> If so, what might be the story behind this?

Might it be related to German _Knute_ 'knout', 'lash made of knotted
leather stips' < Russian _knut_ < Scandinavian, cf. Old Icelandic
_knútr_, related to 'knot' and cognates.  However, _Knute_ is feminine,
while _Knuut_ is masculine.  Then again, _knut_ and _knútr_ ate
masculine.

Any insight?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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