LL-L "Etymology" 2002.05.10 (03) [E]

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From: "W!M" <wkv at home.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.05.10 (01) [E/LS]

Hi!
One more word for ant
Sallands dialect, overijssel netherlands ant = miegel.
An ant was one of those animals with a taboo on it, that's why it has so
many names.  Same as the bear, it is now called after what it eats...
Don't say it's name you might meat him in the woods when you are picking
bears...(berries). In Latin it's called after what it says to you when
it
gets angry....

Moi!

W!M

(Wim verdoold
wkv at home.nl)

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Wim,

> Same as the bear, it is now called after what it eats...

Really?!

Isn't 'bear' usually associated with 'brown'?  This "bear<berry" theory
works phonologically in some Germanic languages, but not in all:

English:       brown......bear......berry
Mid. Engl.:    brûn.......bere......berye
Old Eng.:      brûn.......bera......berie
Scots:         broon......bear......berry
W. Frisian:    brún.......bear......bei
Low Saxon:     bruun......Baar......Beer
Dutch:         bruin......beer......bes
Afrikaans:     bruin......beer......bei
German:        braun......Bär.......Beere
Yiddish:       brojn......ber......(jagde < Slav.)
Danish:        brun.......bjørn.....bær
Dano-Norw.:    brun.......bjørn.....bær
Nynorsk Norw.: brun.......bjørn.....bær
Swedish:       brun.......björn.....bär
Icelandic:     brúnn......bjarn.....ber

In Slavic, certainly, the word for bear seems to be a taboo replacement,
meaning something like "honey looker/seeker":

English:       bear............honey...see
Russian:       medved'.........med.....videt'
Belarusian:    miadz'viedz'....mied....--
Ukrainian:     vedmid'.........med.....--
Slovene:       medved..........med.....videti
Serb.Croatian: medv(j)ed.......med(en).vidi, videti
Macedonian:    mec^ka..........med.....vidi
Bulgarian:     mec^ka..........med.....viz^dam
Czech:         medve^d.........med.....videt
Slovak:        medved'.........med.....vid', videt'
Polish:       (niedzwiedz).....miód....widiec'

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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