LL-L "Etymology" 2002.05.16 (09) [E]

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From: "Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann" <Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann at epost.de>
Subject: Magic Number Eight

Dear Low- and Leeglanners, hi, Ron,

a very special thing I've had been thinking about for a long time is the
"eight"-family (Upper German: "acht", Low Saxon: "acht", but
"tachuntachentich" meaning eighty-eight).
Could there be a relation between *eight" and *ought (to..)* in English,
similar in German *achten* (to respect somebody), Upper German *Eigen-
(-tum)* = Engl. *property*; Low Saxon (and Upper G.) *eigen (sein)*
(translate it into English, Ron, please), Low Saxon *Diekacht* = Engl.
*a
special group of people who have to look for the good condition of the
dikes*, but also: (older) Upper German *jmdn. ächten*, *in Ach{t} und
Bann
schlagen* = Engl.: * to declare someone as an outlaw*; in East-Frisian
(Town
of NORDEN) there is an old club of wise men called *Teelacht* or
similar.

Are those relations just a phantom of my brain? But I've heard about the
magical sense of special numbers in many cultures, but- if!! - why the
EIGHT? It always could come to a fifty-fifty result.

Regards

Fiete.

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From: "Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann" <Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann at epost.de>
Subject: the word "cognate"

Hi, Ron,

there's another word I would like to get explained by You.

Very often You use *cognate*, and I can't find it anywhere in my
dictionaries. I suppose it to mean *born at the same place / being of
the
same origin" (Latin: *con - natus, -a, -um* (very long time ago!])?

Am I right, or does it mean something very special, far apart from this?

Regards
 from

Fiete, the layman

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Fiete,

> Am I right, or does it mean something very special, far apart from this?

I think it's at least close.  "Cognates" are related native words in
different languages, i.e., words that came from the same sources.  I
guess you can call the _urverwandt_ in German.

Perhaps someone else has a better explanation.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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