LL-L "History" 2002.10.16 (07) [E]

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From: Ed Alexander <edsells at cogeco.ca>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2002.10.16 (03) [E]

At 07:56 AM 10/16/02 -0700, Avva Andreas (Richard Turner) wrote:
>          These men of Wautauga and Holston Settlements were organized
under
>Cols John Sevier and William Walker and Hugh Underwood (buried next-door)
>and William Blount, later the first governor of Tennessee. The only
>battle of the Revolutionary War that was fought in Frankland was fought
>in what is now my back yard. The Treaty of Dumplin Valley was signed two
>doors down.

Outside my back door is a large cemetery which encompasses the site of the
fort from whence 700 British regulars marched on the night of June 5, 1813,
and surprised an invading army of 3,000 US regulars in the predawn about
seven miles east of here and routed them.  Probably the news of this
humiliating defeat hasn't reached southern Appalachia yet, eh?

>      When I write that I am a Southern Appalachian, what you must
>understand is that I am neither from Central nor from Northern
>Appalachia. Southern Appalachia is the Blue Ridge, the Great Smokies and
>the Cumberland Mountains of Virginia, Tennessee, North and South
>Carolina, north Georgia and northern Alabama. It has nothing to do with
>the Civil War, either. My family were Federalists. We don't say
>"you-all." The plural is "yuins." We prefer to be called Ridgerunners or
>Mountainfolk. If you're not one of us, please don't use the "H-word." I
>had to call a man down for that the other day. Highlander is acceptable,
>but not widely used.
>      It might be supposed that we are a little prickly.
>      Central Appalachia is Kentucky, parts of Ohio and West Virginia.
>Northern Appalachia extends through Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York and
>New England. Appalachia all together is a pretty big place with widely
>diverging language and folkways.

I have an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War (what I now prefer
to call the First American Civil War, but we all know how prickly yuins are
about that) who moved to northern Appalachia after the war, namely to
Vermont.  In the mountains of Vermont and New Hampshire they still speak a
very ancient Anglian dialect.  A popular expression in the mountains when
strangers stop for directions is "You can't get the-ah from he-ah."  The
rest of what they have to say is usually pretty unintelligible to
flatlanders.

>         Nice to hear from you, Ed.

Yoo too, eh?

Ed Alexander, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

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From: elsie zinsser ezinsser at icon.co.za
Subject: LL-L "History" 2002.10.16 (03) [E]

Hi all and especially Pat Reynolds,

You are saying:
<< I visited Potsdam (...) I think the buildings probably dated from around
the 17th century. (....) Dutch builders who had been brought in with, or
were possibly the same people as, Dutch men contracted to dig a canal at
Pottsdam>>

It might interest you that our Cape Dutch style is very similar to the style
of buildings in not only Potsdam but towards the north-east as far as Danzig
(Koenigsberg).

Regards
Elsie Zinsser

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