LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.10.30 (10) [E]

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From: Stan Levinson stlev99 at yahoo.com
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.10.30 (09) [E]

As an American, I didn't even know 'pissed' meant joke
until reading Australian and English lit.  Until this
email from Criostoir, I didn't know it was used in
Canada in that sense!
Thanks.
Stan
> From: Criostoir O Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.10.30 (06) [E]
> *Is it true that one way to tell a Canadian apart
> from someone from the US
> is that Canadians say "pissed" to mean "drunk"
> whereas USers only ever use
> the term to mean "angry" and don't understand it as
> "drunk" at all?
>
> Go raibh maith agaibh,
>
> Críostóir.

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From: Ed Alexander <edsells at cogeco.ca>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.10.30 (06) [E]
Dear all,

At 12:12 PM 10/30/02 -0800, you wrote:

  *Is it true that one way to tell a Canadian apart from someone from the US
  is that Canadians say "pissed" to mean "drunk" whereas USers only ever use
  the term to mean "angry" and don't understand it as "drunk" at all?

I wasn't aware of that.  However, both uses are quite current in Ontario.
One distinguishes the difference with a postposition, e.g.  "He was piss'd
right o-ut of his f..kin mind." and "She was piss'd right off at him."  One
might also say, "He was royally piss'd", in which case one would have to
seek further context for the meaning.

BTW, when one says "Canadian" in a linguistic sense, we are referring to a
basic linguistic heritage which is not shared by the Province of
Newfoundland, which is much more related to southern Appalachian than the
Mid-Atlantic speech pattern that the rest of English speaking Canadians
adopted from the refugees of the First Anglo-American War.  One must also
keep in mind that Canada is some 4,000+ miles across, and there are some
minor regional vocabulary and speech differences.

Ed Alexander

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From: Criostoir O Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.10.30 (09) [E]

Ron wrote:

"Well, an English example would be "cock," which at least in American
English
tends to be avoided and substituted with "rooster" in reference to a male
bird, because the former had come to denote 'penis'."

As far as I know most definitely just in American English, as the bird of
the name in most of the Englishes of England (especially mine) is a
"cockerel", *never ever* a cock - "cock" is specifically and exclusively
part of the male anatomy. I once heard tell of "cock" (i.e., penis) deriving
from the name of a part of a ship back in the days when conscription into
the British navy was a daily hazard (around 1815), although given how these
conversations come about (usually in pubs and the like), I was probably
drunk at the time and the information can't be relied upon...

Any Lowlanders out there know anything about ships?

Go raibh maith agaibh,

Criostoir.


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