LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.09.27 (12) [E]

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From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
Subject: "Lexicon"

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language changes
>
> This makes me want to ask if you have noticed similar trends in other
> varieties of English and in other Lowlands languages (e.g., "mother" ~>
> "mum", "father" ~> "dad" in other forms of English, and/or _mither_ ~>
> _mum_, _faither_ ~> _dad_ in Scots).  Outside the Lowlands area but within
> the Germanic group, I noticed that in Modern Icelandic _mamma_ and _pabbi_
> are often used where I would expect _mir_ 'mother' and _fair_ 'father'
> respectively, similarly _mame_ and _tate_ in place of (rather serious and
> distant) _muter_ 'mother' and _foter_ 'father' respectively in
> Yiddish, and,
> back in the Lowlands fold, oftentimes _ma_ and _pa_ where I would expect
> _vader_ and _moer_ respectively in Afrikaans.

This would be "ma" and "da" in Scots, I don't think I've
heard "mum" or "dad" used. There is also "pa" for "father".

"Mammie" /'ma:mI/ and "daddie" /'da:dI/ might also be used,
especially by young children or even grown women. In the
case of grown women I think these two words would only be
used when actually addressing the parent (in the "locative",
if you like).

"Mither" and "faither" wouldn't be normal when addressing
the parent in my Scots, although "mither" and "faither"
might be used in referring to them, or alternatively "ma"
and "da".

"Grandfather" is "granda", "papa" /'pa:p@/ or "grampa" as
well as "gran(d)faither".

"Grandmother" is "gran(d)ma", "grannie" or "gran(d)mither".

I've never heard the word "parent" used in Scots (it's always
either just "ma an da" or "mither an faither"), but Lorimer
uses it in his New Testament with the pronunciation /'pa:rent/.

Sandy
http://scotstext.org/

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