LL-L "Phonology" 2003.09.06 (01) [E]
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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Phonology
Beste Sandy (en annere liëglanners),
I was very much surprised to read your comment about some Scottish dialects
inserting /j/ before an initial vowel. Something similar is happening in
Brabantish.
We say "jäär" instead of "aarde" (D) ~ "earth" (E) for example. Another
example "jekkes" (B) for "erwtjes" (D) ~ "Erbschen" (G), "little peas" (E)
and also "jääsgat" (B) ~ "aarsgat" (D) ~ "Arschloch" (G) (won't translate it
in English...otherwise some people might get offended *s*...mind you, in
Brabantish, this honestly means the hole in the ground that is left over
after a tree has been felled).
This /j/ is also sometimes inserted, even if the vowel is not the first
letter, hence "pjäät" "(B) for "Pferd" (G), horse (E); "kjoemmern" (B) (<
"cumen" Middle Dutch), "to wail" (E); "vjääs" (B) ~ "vaars" (D) ~ "Färse"
(G), "heifer" (E); "mjäät" (B) ~ "maart" (D) ~ "März" (G) ~ "March" (E).
Sometimes even more than /j/ is inserted, like /dj/ in "djäät" (B) ~ "haard"
(D) ~ "hearth" (E) ~ "Herd"(G) and "djänseln" (B) (to patter about) ~
"aarzelen" (D). Far in the back of my mind I seem to recall having read that
a certain Dutch linguist J. Van Ginneken (active during the first half of
the 20th century and quite impeachable in some (non linguistic) respects)
tried to attribute this phenomenon to a Slavic substratum. Sounds
far-fetched, doesn't it?
Kind greetings,
Luc Hellinckx
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From: jpkrause <jpkrause at weblink2000.net>
Subject: Phonology
Could this be due to the
> bigger influence of Romance languages during the last three centuries on
the
> American continent? I don't know.
>
> Kind greetings,
Luc & Lolanders,
Might it also be a remnant of the English the immigrants from the
British Isles spoke in the 17th and 18th centuries?
Jim Krause
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