LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.16 (05) [E]

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From: Terrence Connor <Terrence.Connor at ntrans.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.15 (04) [E]

I understood your use of daerom comletely
and by the way
 "Dis darem koud hier in Noorwee¨"

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From: Terrence Connor <Terrence.Connor at ntrans.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.14 (04) [A/E]

Goeie Mo^re

Surely these words have just shifted meaning/taken on a new use in thier new
form which is the case with so many germanic words ... but are still derived
from the words daarom/dadelijk.

A good example although a noun ( will find other examples with verbs
and adjectives)

eng. sky - himmel in norwegian
no.  sky - cloud in english

etmologically same word, different meaning.

Terrence

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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Etymology

Note also the following:

Old English: heBen, hefen, hefon, heofon, heofone, heofun
Modern English: heaven
Modern Scots: hieven
Old Saxon: heBan
Middle Saxon: heven
Modern Lowlands Saxon (Low German): heven ([he:v=m] ~ [he:b=m])

* B = <ƀ> (barred b)

In many dialects, this LS word means 'sky' and contrasts with _himmel_ for
'heaven' (in the religious sense).  Some say that _himmel_ was a Franconian
introduction in the wake of Christianization of the Saxons under
Charlemagne.  I don't know if this is correct.

Apparently, 'heaven' etc. is related to 'to heave' (German _heben_, LS
_hyven_, etc. 'to heave', 'to lift').

Are there any other language varieties that have cognates of 'heaven', or is
this a Saxon thing?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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