LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.06 (01) [E]

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From: Tom Mc Rae <t.mcrae at uq.net.au>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.05 (09) [E]

On 06/12/2004, at 9:22 AM, Lowlands-L wrote:

> Did they serve that well known (in Suriname, at least) delectable
> (equivalent of our fast food) deep fried chicken and duck's feet,
> Criostoir?

Chicken feet are routinely served at Yum Chas here in Brisbane but
Scotland still gets first prize in the dotty delectable field with its
deep fried Mars bars with chips and brown sauce. I even have a shot of
a notice in a chip shop window boasting they sell this gourmet item I
can send to anybody interested.
Regards
Tom

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From: Jo Thys <Jo.Thijs1 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.05 (09) [E]

> From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.05 (02) [E]
>
> >Rosmerta  (Rosmeer) lived only a few miles away .<
>
> Could you explain this reference please.
> And where are you writing from?
>
> Heather

Heather,

Rosmeer is a small village in south-Limburg roughly halfway between Tongeren
and Maastricht. It's situated on a hill top (with a source) and has a
beautiful view. Artefacts were found of all times.  Only a few years ago I
learned local traditions and catholic rituals performed in this area contain
a lot of elements from Celtic metaphysics. Since then, "De Keltische
erfenis" by Valgaerts & Machiels (1993), stichting Mens en Cultuur
uitgeverij (ISBN 90-72931-35-1) became my favourite book.
Rosmeer seems to have been a Celtic cult place, where Rosmerta became
christianised as st. Bertilia, one of 'the tree holy sisters'. They're
celebrated thirteen days after the winter solstice, in what now's coded as
'driekoningen', St-Distaffsday in England and Berchtennacht in Germany. Main
cultic activities however take place the first sunday after the first of
may.  Bertilia is  shown with a source, water birds, a book and a distaff.
Earlier she has been one of the 'Fates' who spun the threads of life. (One
had to throw a piece of cloth in her source, and if it sunk, the prayer had
been heard)
Officially Rosmerta means ' the great giver', so I might have jumped to
conclusions about the horses. On the other hand 'Ros' means 'horse' in
archaic Dutch, so I considered her to be a 'horse-mother' of
'riding-mother'. As a backup Dutch 'merrie' or Gall. 'marca' mean also
(female) horse, rendering Horsequeen (with ros <riks). Jeanne d'Arc might
have filled a metaphysical gap.

Groeten

Jo Thys,
Meumerke (Membruggen), nowadays Mewa (Meewen), after another Celtic godess.

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.05 (09) [E]

Grietje wrote:
"Did they serve that well known (in Suriname, at least) delectable
(equivalent of our fast food) deep fried chicken and duck's feet,
Criostoir?"

I don't remember the entire menu, alas. I imagine it would have only been
Surinamese food adapted for success in a Dutch market. My personal highlight
was a delightful drink based on almonds that I have only tasted that once -
sweet, and indescribably enjoyable.

Ron wrote:
"If horsemeat had been common fair in Britain under Norman occupation, would
it now be called something derived from Old French *_viaunde de caval_ (>
_viande de cheval_), in keeping with the tradition exemplified by "pork,"
"beef" and "veal"?"

Undoubtedly, I reckon. Probably just "cheval", pronounced [tSau'w at l].

Go raibh maith agaibh,

Criostóir.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Críostóir (above):

> Undoubtedly, I reckon. Probably just "cheval", pronounced [tSau'w at l].

Nice one, Críostóir, m' mate!  How about applying Germanic stress and making
it *_choval_ ['tSOv=l] (< OFr chauval)?

Fun!
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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