LL-L "Morphology" 2004.05.05 (07) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2004.05.05 (05) [E]

Hi Ron,
I'll jut put my West-Flemish beside it
> From: marco [evenhuiscommunicatie] <marco at evenhuiscommunicatie.nl>
> Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2004.05.04 (08) [E]
>
> Ron asked:
>
>>> 1. "Hest du unsen all seihn? (Have you already seen ours?)
>> V: Ei 'n oezen  al gezien?
>> 'Have you already seen ours?'
>>
>>> 2. "Hest du uns all seihn?"
>> V: Ei  oes al gezien?
>> 'Have you already seen us?"
>>
>> Does this mean that in your Flemish dialect the word for 'to have' is
>> a
>> cognate of 'to own' and is related to 'own' (e.g., Dutch _eigen_, LS
>> _eygen_) and that this spilled over into auxiliary verb use?  Or is
>> _ei_ a
>> derivation of _hebt_ (or _hest_)?
>
> In Zeelandic:
>
> 1. ei-je den oônzen a gezien?
> 2. ei-j' oôns a gezien?
>
> It's just a deriviation of _heb_:
>
> Dutch:
> ik heb - heb ik?
> jij hebt - heb je?
> wij hebben - hebben we?
> jullie hebben - hebben jullie?
>
> Zeelandic (this roughly counts for West-Flemish too):
> ik è - 'eb ik? (or: ik èn - èn ik?)
> jie eit - ei jie (or: gie èt - èije gie)
> oôns/me è(n) - èn oôns/me? (or: wydder èn - èn wydder?)
> julder è(n) - 'ebbe je/julder?
West-Flemish:
ik è - è kik (or: ik èn - ènne kik)
j' èt - èt ie (ei'j - ei gie - èije gie)
wydder ein - eime wyddre ( è me - è we)
gyder èt - ei gydre (gulder èt - èi guldre)
zyder èn - è'  ze zydre (zulder èn - è' ze zuldre)
>
> Regards,
> Marco
groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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