LL-L "Phonology" 2004.05.06 (02) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.05.05 (09) [E]


  From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
  Subject: Phonology

  Frédéric, Luc, Marco and others,

  I have a question about West Flemish and Zeelandic h-deletion:

  Is there any phonetic differences between words that start with /h/ (which
  is deleted) and those that (supposedly) start with a vowel. More
  specifically, do words that (supposedly) start with a vowel actually start
  with a glottal stop (as in English, German, Lowlands Saxon, etc.)? For
  example, are there any phonetic differences between the equivalents of the
  following Standard Dutch words?

  hebben - ebben
  haal - aal
  heer - eer
  houd - oud
  heen - een

  There is a similar situation in Modern Hebrew, which I watched develop
among
  younger speakers in the early 1970s. Supposedly under French and/or
  Castilian influence, /h/ came to be deleted. However, underlying /h/
  remained word-initially destinct as phonetic zero, while words that
  (supposedly) begin with a vowel (only if written in romanization, in
Hebrew
  script with ? _'alef_ and ? _`ayn_) have a glottal stop ([?]).* For
  example, Modern Hebrew ?? _hem_ [?m] (~ conservative [h?m]) 'they (masc.)'
  vs. ?? _(')em_ [??m] 'mother'.

  *(In Ancient Hebrew, and still in Hebrew used in Arabic-speaking
  environments, the ? _'alef_ represents a glottal stop [?], and _`ayin_
  represents the uvular equivalent [?], directly corresponding to Arabic ?
  _'alif_ and ? _`ayn_ respectively.)

  Regards,
  Reinhard/Ron


Hi Ron,
Indeed, there is a dfference between words that begin with an "h" and words
that begin with a vowel.
There is a more or less pronounced glottal stop for words that begin with a
vowel. Some of the stops are hardly heard but the local speakers do hear the
difference.
groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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