LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.09 (05) [E]
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L O W L A N D S - L * 09.NOV.2004 (05) * ISSN 189-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
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A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
L=Limburgish LS=Lowlands Saxon (Low German) N=Northumbrian
S=Scots Sh=Shetlandic V=(West)Flemish Z=Zeelandic (Zeêuws)
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From: Szelog, Mike <Mike.Szelog at citizensbank.com>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.09 (04) [E]
Hello all,
I've submitted the New England American English version and am working on an
Anglo Saxon (Old English) version - I'll try to also submit a French
Canadian version - Québecois is quite different from "standard French".
Mike S
Manchester, NH
Ron Wrote in part:
I'm not really so concerned about duplication of effort. We need sound (and
corresponding text) versions of what people consider "standard" varieties of
any Lowlands language. (Some of them don't have any standard, of course,
such as Lowlands Saxon and Scots.) If we have enough room on the server,
I'd be more than happy to have more than one version in a standard variety
of one given languages. After all, there is a lot of wiggle room within a
standard. People from, say, Los Angeles, Kansas City, Miami or Boston may
all think they speak Standard American English, but there are differences.
Likewise, people from, say, London, Manchester and Sutherland may think they
speak Standard England English, but, again, they sound different. Oh, and
we should also mention Ireland! A sample or two of Irish English, standard
or not, would be great.
I'd love to see (or hear) at least one sample of African American English.
None of my closer African American associates speaks "Black English;" they
simply speak either Standard American or "Southern" English and cannot
usually be recognized as African American by their voices. Is there someone
on the List that can speak "Black English" or can record someone else's
voice for this purpose? Also welcome would be samples of First Nations
Americans and Canadians that speak English with native substrates or as a
second language. Also Hispanic American English would be great.
It would also be nice to have samples of English spoken elsewhere where it
is official and/or widely used, no matter if natively or not. We have
subscribers in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Singapore, Malaysia, Nigeria,
Kenya, Tansania and Botswana, to name just a few. It would be great to he
of their English.
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Anniversary
Thanks a lot, Mike. I've already posted your version and Gary Taylor's
Estuary English version at my site
(http://www.sassisch.net/rhahn/low-saxon/ls-story.html), and Mathieu will
take the texts from there. (We already have Gary's recording and will post
it at the new site.)
Please send your sound recordings to both Henry (henry.pijffers at saxnot.com)
and me (sassisch at yahoo.com).
A Quebec French version would be nice, but please remember that we'll post
sound files only of Lowlands varieties and of marginally relevant (contact)
varieties (e.g., Missingsch [incl. Berlin dialects] and Jutish), text files
in *any* language, though.
Thanks for your support, Mike and everyone else!
Reinhard "Ron" F. Hahn
Founder & Administrator, Lowlands-L
lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net
http://www.lowlands-l.net
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