LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.10.06 (06) [E]

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From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.10.06 (02) [E]

Dear John,

Subject: Vocabulary? Dialect?

> We have a word in the north of England, _summat_ meaning 'something', that
> is very commonly used.

Surely just your form of the word 'somewhat'? I use it freely, & depending
on context, it may mean 'to a degree' or 'something' (but rather less
specific).

Yrs, Mark

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From: Gary Taylor <gary_taylor_98 at yahoo.com>
Subject: lexicon

Hi John and all

You wrote regarding 'summat' in the south. I would say 'summink' (with a
southern 'u' that does indeed sound a bit like northern 'a' so I'll forgive
your spelling ;) ). With final voiceless stop consonants (so k, p and t)
they get glottalised that is they're accompanied by a catch in the throat
(/?/) and if followed by a consonant often lost - practically always for a t
(which is also mainly lost before a vowel as well), often for a k and
occasionally for a p. This could mean that 'summink' could get pronounced a
bit like 'summit', but I wouldn't say that it's a loan from the north, as
there will still probably be a hint of the 'ng' in there. There are a lot of
loans from the North in vocabulary in London as it's a mixture of people
from all over the country, but it doesn't usually include pronunciations. If
you did hear it from someone living in London I would expect that they'd
spent some time living in the North.

Gary (a token Londoner)

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