LL-L "Etymology" 2004.10.10 (02) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.10.09 (07) [E]

  From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
  Subject: Etymology

  Hey, Gabriele!

  Are you trying to imply something about me from the assumed safety of the
  peanut gallery?

  Yiddish ????? _eydel_, German _edel_ and Lowlands Saxon _eddel_ 'noble'
are
  related to the noun _Adel_ 'nobility', thus are related to Dutch _edel_
and
  _adel_ respectively, also Old English _æðele_ and _æðel-_ respectively.

  Dutch _ijdel_ and English 'idle' are related to German _eitel_ and
Lowlands
  Saxon _ydel_ (_iedel_) 'vain'. Their relations are not totally known, but
  their meaning used to be 'empty' (hence LS _leddig-gaan- "to go empty" =
'to
  e idle', 'to be unemployed') as well as 'pure' (e.g., archaic German
_eitel
  old_ 'pure gold').

  Of course, we know that officially noble people also tended to be vain and
  idle, but none of this wouldn't apply to me (though _eitel Gold und
  Sonnenschein_ definitely would). So watch it!

  Regards,
  Reinhard/Ron

Hi Ron and Gabriele,
We use the word "ijdel" in the sence of "empty" and the verb "ijdelen" means
to empty.
I know of one proverb:
Je moe nie met ijdel' hands/handen over t'erf lopen.
(E: you must not cross the yard with empty hands), meaning : Do not be lazy,
there is alwaeys some work to find.

groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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